SDPATT, need your help on something

[Mike92Silver]

hey, well i was telling you about my throttle cable problem. Well i find out why my car isnt flying. I had a friend floor my gas pedal and theres slack in it, like i can still move the throttle, its strectched apparently. So im not getting WOT, which i figured i wasnt. So this is my second used throttle cable. Can i fit a 93-95 cable because i think the only solution is a new one. So what is so different from a 93-95, than from a 91-92? I know people have had to do it. If not, my car is shit out of luck? Thanks!

 

[sdpatt]

After fitting two of them that aren't allowing you full throttle, I don't think that the problem is the cable. It doesn't matter how long the core of the cable is, what matters is how far from the end of the cable the sheath is anchored.

You need to check to ensure that the end of the sheath is correctly anchored to the mounting plate at the throttle body and that the mounting plate has not been bent towards the throttle shaft. The same goes for the anchor point under the dash, but I bet the throttle body end is more likely to have been changed from the original configuration.

All the cable needs to do is slide smoothly through the sheath. It's the anchoring of the cable end and the sheath that do all the pulling.

 

[jcostantino]

The V8 Mustang guys have a mod that they take the slack up in the throttle cable and that gives a larger throttle body opening for possibly some extra power. Worth looking into on the SHO?

Jeff

 

[sdpatt]

The normal configuration of the throttle cable and linkage ensure the throttle plate opens fully. As long as nothing in the linkage is damaged or bent, there is nothing that can be improved to open the throttle any farther. I don't know what the Mustang guys are talking about. They probably don't either.

Scott

 

[Mike92Silver]

I will check it out, but im pretty sure i cant adjust it at all. It seems like its in a fixed position at least on the TB. Havent looked at the gas pedal end. Well the first one i know def was bad because it was perfect but it wasnt smooth, this one is smooth but its not pushing the TB to full throttle, so im not sure. I wish i had another SHO Person that lived near me. People think most of the problems are in my head with my car, and im like they arent. So what exactly do i do to the TB, bend it out farther so it opens all the way? im confused

 

[sdpatt]

There is a black metal bracket that the throttle cable mounts to on the throttle body. Make sure you are mounting the rubber grommet onthere correctly and also that the bracket is not bent inthe direction of the throttle shaft. You could even bend it away to get more opening on the throttle. But be careful the throttle is still able to close completely.

You are right, it would be much easier to diagnose if I was able to see it in person too.

Scott

 

[Mike92Silver]

well it seems the TB side is fine, however the damn pedal is pretty close to the floorboard now, and i have less power probably. Its soooo short of travel now, its really wacked, i think i did more harm than good in this case. Hey i checked out my friends 95 GT and he has some sort of long spring on his throttle cable, that clips onto 2 parts, mine doesnt have that. am i missing that?

 

[sdpatt]

Since my surgery, I am not physically able to get under the dash and take a look, but it sounds like either the gas pedal's shaft is bent or the mounting for the cable sheath end is. I don't recall a spring being on the pedal under the dash. I believe the return spring on the throttle body is the mechanism to provide the tension and resistence in the gas pedal. There are no springs other than the one on the throttle body's throttle shaft.

Scott

 

[naval-avi8or]

Here's some pictures of the pedal. There is no spring just a simple lever arm. Hope this helps.

 

[sdpatt]

Mike,

Are you sure there is not an obstruction that is preventing the pedal from traveling all the way to the floor? Floor mat? Non-stock wiring bundle (like in the photo above)? Floor mat?

Scott

 

[Mike92Silver]

Well me and my dad looked at it and basically, theres too much slack at the TB end. The gas pedal is fine. Where do you take up the slack for the throttle cable?? there has to be something to tighten?

 

[sdpatt]

There is no built-in adjustment for the cable. If the cable ends are properly seated ad it is the correct cable, the length should be sufficient to allow full throttle. Only you can see where the extra play is coming into the cable. Are you absolutely sure you have attached both ends of the cable correctly? Sorry, had to ask.

Scott

 

[Mike92Silver]

Well it turns out the shop that put the cable in, put the part with the rubber grummet(it still is on the inside, however the clip thats on it, is on the outside now) on the inside of the black bracket instead of the outside. So once undid the screw and screw it in from the other side, i get WOT. But i get it real quick, like it goes WOT like half way to the floor and theres alot of extra pedal slack i guess like the cable is too short, but at least its better than not having wot.

 

[slapnpop]

the grommet slides ON to the metal peice, with rubber on either side. Seems like you're going from one wrong to another.

there's a slit in the rubber that slides strait down onto the metal peice, and the screw goes in from the MAF side, through the rubber, into the metal.

 

[Mike92Silver]

the rubber grummet is on the cable and the screw is on the maf side, before it was facing the engine. So im not sure where i wronged?