RXP Dual catch can

[Ryan Selcer]

Based on these results I would hands down absolutely go RXP over UPR if I were in the market for a catch can. My stubbornness is wearing off, so who knows maybe I’ll end up being the first guinea pig

Hey i did just notice your looking at a ****** comparison man. That's on a 5.0. TOTALLY different engine man

 

[Ryan Selcer]

Also, both companies have made improvements since 2014, i think im in the same boat as you, considering having to try them both and see

 

[High on Ethanol]

just an FYI. Almost all of the liquid you catch is condensation on a healthy engine.....and it wouldn't be harmful if ingested into the engine when normally operating your vehicle. In fact....most of it wouldn't be in liquid form.

 

[Ryan Selcer]

just an FYI. Almost all of the liquid you catch is condensation on a healthy engine.....and it wouldn't be harmful if ingested into the engine when normally operating your vehicle. In fact....most of it wouldn't be in liquid form.

What are you talking about? All that oil coats your intake and gunks up and covers your valves with carbon

 

[High on Ethanol]

What are you talking about? All that oil coats your intake and gunks up and covers your valves with carbon

I never had one on my SHO and the intake was always dry. I dont have one on my truck either. My company has 50 fleet ecoboost trucks. Guess how many have catch cans? They tow trailers and haul material daily. Accumulate 100k+ miles per 3years.

That being said, so far in the past 6 years they did have one truck that blew the turbos. Overall I haven't seen a reason for it unless you have a lot of blowby or do a lot of short trips.

 

[Ryan Selcer]

I never had one on my SHO and the intake was always dry. I dont have one on my truck either. My company has 50 fleet ecoboost trucks. Guess how many have catch cans? They tow trailers and haul material daily. Accumulate 100k+ miles per 3years.

That being said, so far in the past 6 years they did have one truck that blew the turbos. Overall I haven't seen a reason for it unless you have a lot of blowby or do a lot of short trips.

I have a hard time believing they are clean and dry after that long, and if they are then you might have a lucky engine. Dont get me wrong the engines will still run just fine for a very long time. But they won't run AS well for AS long. The main reason we're adding catch cans here is cause we're going for higher HP numbers at which time your gonna end up with more fluid recirculating. It also has to do with how you drive, i floor it pretty much 80% of the time so im gonna be burping alot more oil daily than someone that just drives easy and goes the speed limit

 

[High on Ethanol]

I have a hard time believing they are clean and dry after that long, and if they are then you might have a lucky engine. Dont get me wrong the engines will still run just fine for a very long time. But they won't run AS well for AS long. The main reason we're adding catch cans here is cause we're going for higher HP numbers at which time your gonna end up with more fluid recirculating. It also has to do with how you drive, i floor it pretty much 80% of the time so im gonna be burping alot more oil daily than someone that just drives easy and goes the speed limit

The actual reason for the catch can is the direct injection dilemma. This is mostly resolved with dual injector setup.

I'm not saying everyone doesn't need one...but I'm not saying everyone does. I ran my SHO hard because I never planned to keep it forever. I also didn't change ptu fluid or trans or rdu. I expected to win every stop light drag and I drove as such. I also saw Mexico a few times and that boat sails!

 

[Ryan Selcer]

The actual reason for the catch can is the direct injection dilemma. This is mostly resolved with dual injector setup.

I'm not saying everyone doesn't need one...but I'm not saying everyone does. I ran my SHO hard because I never planned to keep it forever. I also didn't change ptu fluid or trans or rdu. I expected to win every stop light drag and I drove as such. I also saw Mexico a few times and that boat sails!

So where exactly did you get a dual injector SHO? I believe its a one and only

 

[High on Ethanol]

I was referring to the vehicles ford decided to keep producing. My SHO was a nonPP and the mods can be seen in my signature. I sold it for shiny pennies.


Just to be clear, I no longer own a SHO. I'm also self tuning. I dont have a plan B. A has to work.

 

[Ryan Selcer]

I was referring to the vehicles ford decided to keep producing. My SHO was a nonPP and the mods can be seen in my signature. I sold it for shiny pennies.

I dont see anyone's sigs for some reason. My point is were here talking about SHOs so why are you here talking about f150s in a way that doesn't even pertain to SHOs?

 

[High on Ethanol]

view it on a laptop or check the desktop site in your browser.

I'm a ***** I guess. I dont have any excuses for my actions.

 

[SM105K]

@SM105K weren't you saying that your intake is still clean and dry?

For the most part.

 

[SM105K]

I dont see anyone's sigs for some reason. My point is were here talking about SHOs so why are you here talking about f150s in a way that doesn't even pertain to SHOs?

Turn you phone sideways and you will see sigs.

 

[stripSHO]

I love how people think what engine a can is hooked to somehow alters its ability to trap the vapors that pass through it.

In 2014 RXP was clearly a superior product by LIGHTYEARS. If anyone has a comparable test for 2020 that demonstrates otherwise for 2020 then by all means let’s see. But completely dismissing the data based solely on the test vehicle is just plain ignorant.

I have no stock in RXP so I don’t really care. But for some reason it’s blasphemy in this forum to do anything other than praise UPR as the greatest thing that ever has been or ever will be

 

[Ryan Selcer]

I love how people think what engine a can is hooked to somehow alters its ability to trap the vapors that pass through it.

In 2014 RXP was clearly a superior product by LIGHTYEARS. If anyone has a comparable test for 2020 that demonstrates otherwise for 2020 then by all means let’s see. But completely dismissing the data based solely on the test vehicle is just plain ignorant.

I have no stock in RXP so I don’t really care. But for some reason it’s blasphemy in this forum to do anything other than praise UPR as the greatest thing that ever has been or ever will be

Well i would have to argue that they will operate differently as they are dealing with totally different pressures on an NA V8 vs a TT V6, if your argument was true then why can't you just put ANY catch can on ANY motor if it doesn't matter what motor its on?

 

[Ryan Selcer]

view it on a laptop or check the desktop site in your browser.

I'm a ***** I guess. I dont have any excuses for my actions.

Well i just mean we were talking about a specific engine needing a catch can and you come in here like "no engines need CCs because none of our trucks need them" like, ok ***

 

[High on Ethanol]

Well i just mean we were talking about a specific engine needing a catch can and you come in here like "no engines need CCs because none of our trucks need them" like, ok ***

The trucks would use the same catch can setup. They have the 3.5 twin turbo. They also have the 5.0, and the 2.7tt which despite being all way different engines share most of the same factory cold air intake and also use the same catch cans with different hose lengths/connections where applicable. Ford upgraded the design by adding port injection eliminating the carbon deposits on valves.

Also I was using it for an example because as a company we abuse them because we don't own them and they can be exchanged with little down time as needed. Now most guys would never overload the work truck right? Or take it off road? They wouldn't drive it like they stole it I'm sure.

I apologize if I haven't added anything useful. Maybe more people will chime in.

 

[stripSHO]

Well i would have to argue that they will operate differently as they are dealing with totally different pressures on an NA V8 vs a TT V6, if your argument was true then why can't you just put ANY catch can on ANY motor if it doesn't matter what motor its on?

Because if you bothered to read and understand the test procedures & results you'd see that it was testing relative effectiveness and not absolute. The RXP was placed downstream of a UPR and caught tons of shit the UPR let slip through. Then the UPR was placed downstream of the RXP and caught next to nothing because the RXP did it's job. Then the UPR was "upgraded" and the RXP still caught a 1/2 ton of shit the "upgraded" UPR couldn't manage to grab. So any flow differences from different applications are irrelevant.

 

[Ryan Selcer]

Because if you bothered to read and understand the test procedures & results you'd see that it was testing relative effectiveness and not absolute. The RXP was placed downstream of a UPR and caught tons of shit the UPR let slip through. Then the UPR was placed downstream of the RXP and caught next to nothing because the RXP did it's job. Then the UPR was "upgraded" and the RXP still caught a 1/2 ton of shit the "upgraded" UPR couldn't manage to grab. So any flow differences from different applications are irrelevant.

Thats not true because the baffle systems have to be able to allow a certain amount of air through while also separating out the oil, you would obviously need a different design for different pressures

 

[stripSHO]

Now most guys would never overload the work truck right?

Definitely not. I've certainly never put 1400 lbs of tube steel on the ladder rack of an econoline, Packed about 1000 lbs of duct and tools inside, then hooked it to a heavy-ass trailer loaded with a 6000 lb scissor lift all at the same time. NEVER. lol