Runner guide pins

[TwistedD85]

The guide pins for the runners, are they really necessary or can they be removed without repercussions? Just bored and curious :thankyou:

 

[LOUDSHO92]

Yes they make sure that the runners line up corretly.

 

[TwistedD85]

That's all though? I just dunno if they help keep them in place during operation or if it's just to help align it when you're assembling the engine.

 

[frosho]

They're there for assembly. Which is pretty important. Why would you want a misaligned intake?

 

[K-Dawg]

They keep the heads, gaskets and manifold all in the proper relationship. I think removing them would do more harm than good.

 

[93rev2sev]

I can't see any good from removing them. If things aren't aligned, you WILL get intake vacuum leaks.

 

[TwistedD85]

Hmm.. alright, just seemed like a pain in the ass to bend tubing to fit around that thing. That and it's another hole to drill. Oh well, thanks!

 

[K-Dawg]

Hmm.. alright, just seemed like a pain in the ass to bend tubing to fit around that thing. That and it's another hole to drill. Oh well, thanks!

Maybe I don't know what you are talking about...

 

[Sho Amo]

sounds like your making a custom manifold. if thats what your doing and you come and ask if the dowel pins are necessary, you might want to let someone else build that intake.

 

[93rev2sev]

Just use the flanges as a template?

 

[TwistedD85]

Maybe I don't know what you are talking about...

Never said you didn't know, guess my post could have came off sounding bothered or something, but it was a genuine thanks.

sounds like your making a custom manifold. if thats what your doing and you come and ask if the dowel pins are necessary, you might want to let someone else build that intake.

I'm just bored and looking for some way to fill my time tonight, I never really understood the point of the pins since I figured the bolts/studs (depending on which would be installed at the time) themselves would do a fine enough job holding the and gasket intake in place once they were torqued down. I apologize that the only real experience and advice I have gotten with performance parts are from old Volkswagens that don't have alignment pins for the intake manifolds, only studs, and old V8s that I don't recall having pins just bolts, I wasn't aware of just what all they used for. I never questioned their use until now, they were just there on the SHO engine, apparently doing their job, whatever it might have been. No need to try and shoot me down.

Just use the flanges as a template?

I kinda figured that'd be the way to do it or to maybe look at a set of intake spacers since they're probably a bit easier to hold, not that I have either to look at really.

But really, thanks for the info, I'm going back to my sketching, which I do for fun :wave:

 

[NCTaurusSHO]

sounds like your making a custom manifold. if thats what your doing and you come and ask if the dowel pins are necessary, you might want to let someone else build that intake.

If the guy has the skills to make a intake im sure he can put it togeather with out the dowels. You should have no problem

 

[K-Dawg]

Never said you didn't know, guess my post could have came off sounding bothered or something, but it was a genuine thanks.

I thought maybe you were talking about some other part and I misunderstood.

I'm just bored and looking for some way to fill my time tonight, I never really understood the point of the pins since I figured the bolts/studs (depending on which would be installed at the time) themselves would do a fine enough job holding the and gasket intake in place once they were torqued down. I apologize that the only real experience and advice I have gotten with performance parts are from old Volkswagens that don't have alignment pins for the intake manifolds, only studs, and old V8s that I don't recall having pins just bolts, I wasn't aware of just what all they used for. I never questioned their use until now, they were just there on the SHO engine, apparently doing their job, whatever it might have been. No need to try and shoot me down.

Studs alone might suffice, but since the dowels are there, might as well use them. The chopped off base of the factory manifold might be a good place to start for a custom manifold. I believe I've seen other people do that.

 

[TwistedD85]

If the guy has the skills to make a intake im sure he can put it togeather with out the dowels. You should have no problem

Well, I myself have no skills, I can't even weld, but it's something I really enjoy thinking about. I at least have enough general knowledge of mechanics and science to build something that I'm sure would work well, how well though I can't be sure. Also the gaskets wouldn't be an issue because the stock gaskets wouldn't work for what I've been sketching up

 

[TwistedD85]

I thought maybe you were talking about some other part and I misunderstood.

Studs alone might suffice, but since the dowels are there, might as well use them. The chopped off base of the factory manifold might be a good place to start for a custom manifold. I believe I've seen other people do that.

I just really didn't know how weldable the metal of the intake was, I could've swore I read it would be hard to fill in the letters on the tank for some reason, guess I figured it was soft or porous, I probably misunderstood. Text sucks for conveying emotions and tones, I probably should've used a smilie anyways :type:

 

[Off Road SHO]

The intake is very weld-able. TIG works best.

Tom

 

[HotRodKid]

I just really didn't know how weldable the metal of the intake was, I could've swore I read it would be hard to fill in the letters on the tank for some reason, guess I figured it was soft or porous, I probably misunderstood. Text sucks for conveying emotions and tones, I probably should've used a smilie anyways :type:

to fill the letters on the intake you basicly need to use aluminium cut from an extra intake as filler, so that when its sanded / polished the shine matches

as for how weldable the stock intake is, it welds JUST FINE.... well .... when you have someone who knows how to weld do it.

i on the other hand allowed a coworker to weld on the adapter rings for the HBB's .... and ... well .... i prefer to say he ***** the manifold with an electric arc ....

 

[TwistedD85]

The intake is very weld-able. TIG works best.

Tom

Sweet, good to know :thankyou:

to fill the letters on the intake you basicly need to use aluminum cut from an extra intake as filler, so that when its sanded / polished the shine matches

as for how weldable the stock intake is, it welds JUST FINE.... well .... when you have someone who knows how to weld do it.

i on the other hand allowed a coworker to weld on the adapter rings for the HBB's .... and ... well .... i prefer to say he ***** the manifold with an electric arc ....

I think once the money gets flowing again and things are stable I'm gonna go to school for welding. As much as I love cars there's only so many jobs that deal with them, if you're a good welder there's countless job opportunities and you can make your own sh*t :woo-hoo: