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does anyone have a diagram of the rob shifter?
I want to smooth out the shifter action. I have a rebuild kit but I am at a loss as to how to replace the "gel" bushing. The '91 repair manual only covers the cable shifter.
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Joe
 

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Here you go. Not sure what you mean by the gel bushing. If you got the rebuild kit from SHO Source, they have installation instructions:


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Here you go. Not sure what you mean by the gel bushing. If you got the rebuild kit from SHO Source, they have installation instructions:


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Nick;
Thanks a-lot. The diagram is very helpful and was very hard to find.
In dia. C9694-B part#4 are the two bolts that go into the 'u' shape channel with two (plastic)? guide pieces (supplied with the shosource shifter kit) all encased in a 'gel' or 'silicone' type mold that in my case has completely dried out and disintegrated. I am planning on using a 'new' silicone molding material but have removed the two plastic pieces and now I do not know the orientation of the plastic pieces so I can fill the channel with the silicone which is not shown in the diagram. Other than this all the other shifter parts are in good shape and working fine. My SHO was manufactured in Texas in May of '91 with a rod shifter.

thanks very much.
p.s. I'm still looking for a stock SLO rear bumper to go under my SHO cover.
 

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I'm also looking to find a solution to the orange gel things. Mine are disintegrated like OP said. Also the white plastic pieces around the oranges gels are also falling apart. These things are located in the diagram above where the #4 bolts go into.

Are the orange gel things and white plastic pieces available anywhere? Been searching around online and haven't come up with much, except for this thread.

I have an '89 MTX with rod shifter.
 

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I'm also looking to find a solution to the orange gel things. Mine are disintegrated like OP said. Also the white plastic pieces around the oranges gels are also falling apart. These things are located in the diagram above where the #4 bolts go into.

Are the orange gel things and white plastic pieces available anywhere? Been searching around online and haven't come up with much, except for this thread.

I have an '89 MTX with rod shifter

http://shosource.com have the white plastic bushings that go into the "gel" along with the shifter plastic ball & socket kit. Mike @ shosource says that they are working on a replacement for the "gel" but there is no word yet. I have suggested that I may use "Alumilite" a pliable (platinum based silicone mold making rubber) poured into the "u" shaped housing along with the bushings but I have forgotten the orientation of the original bushings in the housing. If u can tell me the original orientation of the bushings then I will pour the mold and let u know how it goes, I have a spare "u" shaped housing. (see pic)
 

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I'll see if I can get a pic sometime soon. I installed the shifter today, with a few pieces of the "gel" haha. Pretty busy this week and going out of town this wknd. When I have a chance next I'll take if off and snap a photo.

That's good news about Shosource. I've bought many part from Mike in the last few months.
 

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I'll see if I can get a pic sometime soon. I installed the shifter today, with a few pieces of the "gel" haha. Pretty busy this week and going out of town this wknd. When I have a chance next I'll take if off and snap a photo.

That's good news about Shosource. I've bought many part from Mike in the last few months.
tks,
joe
 

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does anyone have a diagram of the rob shifter?
I want to smooth out the shifter action. I have a rebuild kit but I am at a loss as to how to replace the "gel" bushing. The '91 repair manual only covers the cable shifter.
Thanks,
Joe
When I have a chance next I'll take if off and snap a photo.
 

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When I have a chance next I'll take if off and snap a photo.
I hope so. I emailed Mike at Shosource, waiting to hear back. I just ordered everything he has to refresh the shift rod linkage parts. This last part with the gel inserts seems to be the only missing piece.

I'm doing everything I can to get the shift operation to be as optimal as possible.
 

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I took some photos today of my rod shifter, and the gel insert things. You can see how the white plastic pieces kind of wrap around the metal sides. Then there is gel above and below basically. In the photos one of my white plastic pieces is broken in two FYI, and I'm missing a gel pad on top of one of the sides. And then there is that metal piece in the middle.

Surely someone makes replacements for these items lol.


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I took some photos today of my rod shifter, and the gel insert things. You can see how the white plastic pieces kind of wrap around the metal sides. Then there is gel above and below basically. In the photos one of my white plastic pieces is broken in two FYI, and I'm missing a gel pad on top of one of the sides. And then there is that metal piece in the middle.

Surely someone makes replacements for these items lol.


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Dave; thanks very much for the great pics. Just what I was looking for. I am going ahead asap with my effort to pour a mold into my backup shifter part with new plastic bushings. I will do my best to document my effort with pics and I will post my results and if successful I will install with my results.
Thanks again and best to ya,
Joe
 

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Thanks Joe, good luck with that. I just hope the SHO community can find a solution for everyone that needs these gel parts replaced.
 

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I emailed Mike at SHOSource about the gel inserts. He said the following:

"For the gel insert, we were experimenting with an industrial plastic that would last longer, but our research stalled when someone started 3D printing replacements. I have not heard about long term success on the 3D replacements, so I will see if I can restart our replacement concepts. I will let you know what I find"
 

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Thanks Joe, good luck with that. I just hope the SHO community can find a solution for everyone that needs these gel parts replaced.
successful rod shifter bushings w/silicone rubber fill (flexible) pics attached. if there are any tips i can give just let me know. bottom line is the shifts are clean with no hangups or missed shifts because the assembly was moving without the bushings being in place on the rails.
 

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successful rod shifter bushings w/silicone rubber fill (flexible) pics attached. if there are any tips i can give just let me know. bottom line is the shifts are clean with no hangups or missed shifts because the assembly was moving without the bushings being in place on the rails.
Well that's amazing man. Any tips? Haha I don't know how to fabricate these types of things. Any chance you can make extra pieces for others? I also need to get new plastic pieces that surround the rubber.
 

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Well that's amazing man. Any tips? Haha I don't know how to fabricate these types of things. Any chance you can make extra pieces for others? I also need to get new plastic pieces that surround the rubber.
I got the two plastic bushings from shosource. They came in a kit with the ball & socket & the rubber shifter bushings but I don't see that kit on the shosource product page 11. Call Mike at shosource. I do recommend getting the clevis repair kit page 12 it will clean up the sloppy feel of the shifter rod and is well worth it & the install is not that hard you just need a dremel or equivalent tool with a carbide blade to cut of the rivet of the original (non-serviceable) clevis joint. The kit comes with very good instructions. Note; the ball & socket require a press to remove & install the new one. I don't have access to a press and left the good original in place.

The pour requires just 30 minutes so 'read & follow' the instructions 'carefully' & keep in mind that the pour will set up in 5 Minutes max. After 30 minutes you can remove the bushing and carrier intact and clean up is very easy with a razor knife & the gel remains flexible & does not stick to anything except itself. Note: I am in sofla and it is very warm so I did my pour inside where it was 77 degrees and the pour still set up in only 5 min. so you have to work 'fast.' The pictures show that I 'leveled' the 'shifter' and then leveled the 'housing' so that the two white bushings 'floated' on the 'shifter rails' and allowing the silicone to get under & around the bushings.

I only did (1) pour but if you use the tape like I did the biggest problem is leakage of the gel which has the consistency of melted ice cream. Not a big problem because clean up is very easy. The gel does not stick to anything except itself. You can minimize leakage by doing one 'small' amount of pour & wait 5 minutes for it to set up then do a second 'larger' pour to finish. This will help the larger pour from leaking out the bottom. The two pours will meld together.

It's not that difficult and I am happy with the results and the SHO carries on towards the 300k club. lol
Note: quotes were added for special attention.
Best to all,
Joe:cool:
 

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Pretty busy this week and going out of town this wknd. When I have a chance next I'll take if off and snap a photo.
see post #2 (this topic) from baysho for the rod shifter diagram also see my post #19 for shosource.com parts and my home remedy for the 'non-existant' gel replacement.
Joe
 

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