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This may be a really dumb question, but I was gonna flush and fill my radiator yesterday and I went to go get the coolant/antifreeze and on the way I saw a company advertizing the service for 39 bucks so I said what the yeck. I went inside and asked for it, and the guy said that if I have Dexcool I dont need this done, b/c it lasts 12 years or sumn like that...i have NEVER heard of this. Anyway, I have a 1993 ATX and I havent checked the coolant/antifreeze since I got the car and this summer it was running little hot. So,do I have Dexcool? Should I get the radiator flushed/filled? it is like 17 degrees right now in Michigan. Thanx thumbs_u
 

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Dexcool & Dexron are both General Motors trademarks. The SHO does not have Dexcool, unless someone else put it in. The SHO is supposed to have regular Ethelyne Glycol (Green) antifreeze. You should always keep your eye on the antifreeze level as well as the oil level and transmission fluid level, since idiot lights do not always work. It's really simple. When the car is cold in the morning, once a month take 5 minutes to pop the hood and take off the radiator cap and see if you can see green coolant. If you can see it, you're okay, but it should be added to. There is a "Cold Fill" mark on the overflow tank, which you should also check. Make sure you use a 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water. Many people recommend distilled water because it is cheap and doesn't contain the minerals that tap water does, therefore meaning that the chances of it clogging your cooling system are smaller. Also, the Ethylene Glycol antifreeze should be flushed and changed every 36 months or 36,000 miles.

I hope you check your oil on a regular basis, like every time you stop for gas. It may be a little excessive, but it will definitely help prevent you from blowing up an engine due to a low oil level. The oil can be checked when you check the coolant, because the engine does not have to be warm. On the other hand, the transmission fluid should be checked when the engine and transmission are hot (10 miles of driving should be sufficient). If you aren't sure how to check your fluids, don't be ashamed. Ask to have a mechanic or trusted friend show you how. It will save you from potential problems in the future.

By all means, if you do not know the car's service record, HAVE THAT COOLANT CHANGED! As antifreeze deteriorates it's anti-freezing characteristics are changed. At 17 degrees, you're most likely looking at a potentially ruined engine because the water will swell causing the cylinder walls, block, or freeze plugs to burst.

<small>[ December 07, 2002, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: 93MTXSHO ]</small>
 

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Dex-cool is a gm coolant. But someone may have put it into your car during a previous flush and fill. The easiest way to tell is dex-cool is usually orange in color, and the regular stuff is usually green. Also they say that it is best to just use what your car has in it, dont try to change over to other kinds of coolant.
 

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Just FYI, they're all ethylene glycol antifreezes. Only the Sierra crap and prestone low-tox and their clones, and Amsoil coolant are propylene glycol based. All the others, Dexcool, toyota red, and the gnarly red 300,000 mile stuff for diesel trucks, and of course regular green are ethylene glycol. The only difference is the corrosion inhibitor package.

Not trying to be a smart ass, just I see some guys (sdpatt included) refer to green as ethylene glycol and the orange as just dexcool, when in fact it is ethylene glycol also.

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i thought Dexcool was a GM product, I told the guy that and he laughed it off and said no. lol...i guess I wont be going back there. I will just do it myself like I was going to do in the first place. :rolleyes:
 

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Thanx guys. I thought Dexcool was a GM product, I told the guy that and he laughed it off and said no. lol...i guess I wont be going back there. I will just do it myself like I was going to do in the first place. :rolleyes:
 

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Dexcool and regular antifreeze are not compatible. You must be sure to have all the old stuff flushed out before you switch to one or the other. I use Dexcool in both my SHOs. Dexcool is more sensitive to air in the system too. Personally I don't thinks it is a good choice for the V6.
 

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Rio:
Thanx guys. I thought Dexcool was a GM product, I told the guy that and he laughed it off and said no. lol...i guess I wont be going back there. I will just do it myself like I was going to do in the first place. :rolleyes:
GM has the patent and in addition to having their own GM branded Dexcool they license the name to other manufacturers. I think GM contracted Havoline to develop the formula. In any case walmart sells the havoline brand of dexcool pretty cheap.

I'd be interested if anybody has tried the super extended life 300,000 mile red stuff in any of their cars? It's kinda pricey, $7.68 a gallon for the shell Rotella version at walmart and that's prediluted to a standard 50/50 concentration. That's means spending $15.36 to get the same amount of coolant as a gallon of regular stuff plus a gallon of distilled water. Ouch. But it's effectively a lifetime fill if the system has been properly flushed and purged. Just replace what you lose during 60K's. Probably kiss water pump replacements goodbye too.

Rick
 

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Rio:
This may be a really dumb question, but I was gonna flush and fill my radiator yesterday and I went to go get the coolant/antifreeze and on the way I saw a company advertizing the service for 39 bucks so I said what the yeck. I went inside and asked for it, and the guy said that if I have Dexcool I dont need this done, b/c it lasts 12 years or sumn like that...i have NEVER heard of this. Anyway, I have a 1993 ATX and I havent checked the coolant/antifreeze since I got the car and this summer it was running little hot. So,do I have Dexcool? Should I get the radiator flushed/filled? it is like 17 degrees right now in Michigan. Thanx thumbs_u
Dexcool is 5/year or 50,000 which ever comes first as anti freeze degrades whether being driven or just sitting there. It is usually not green as well I have bought dex-cool compatible from different brands and it's usually orange.
 

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mopower:
Dex-cool is a gm coolant. But someone may have put it into your car during a previous flush and fill. The easiest way to tell is dex-cool is usually orange in color, and the regular stuff is usually green. Also they say that it is best to just use what your car has in it, dont try to change over to other kinds of coolant.
Dex-cool compatible is actually called for in newer fords it's right in the manual for my brothers 98 towncar as whats recommended. It is fine to use in place of regular 3 yr green fluid. He had it in all his cars 91 5.0 tbird , 94 crown vic and his 1998 lincoln towncar. NO problems with cooling system whatsoever.
 

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mopower:
Dex-cool is a gm coolant. But someone may have put it into your car during a previous flush and fill. The easiest way to tell is dex-cool is usually orange in color, and the regular stuff is usually green. Also they say that it is best to just use what your car has in it, dont try to change over to other kinds of coolant.
Dex-cool compatible, not dex-cool brand is actually called for in newer fords it's right in the manual for my brothers 98 towncar as whats recommended. It is fine to use in place of regular 3 yr green fluid. He had it in all his cars 91 5.0 tbird , 94 crown vic and his 1998 lincoln towncar. NO problems with cooling system whatsoever.
 

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FYI
I have been using Toyota's Red Antifreeze 5 year/50K miles for over a year now with no troubles. Why? Simple, it was free. :D
P/N- 00272-1LLAC - $16.99/gallon
Rio, you might want to change the thermostat in the SHO as well since it was running a little hot this past summer.
 

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I recommend checking all vital fluids on a daily basis before you first crank it up every day. Brakes, power steering, radiator/overflow, and oil will only take you a minute or two. As already mentioned, oil checks at every fillup are a good measure. Sho's are known to be hot performance motors and it's not uncommon to use oil between changes. As for the coolant flush. I think the best way to do it is to flush it yourself according to the service manual. A backflushing of the heater core is required and appears to have improved my cooling. The cold weather doesn't hurt either. I'm curious as to the difference in cooling characteristics between the animal killer stuff and the dexcool stuff. My thoughts are if it's extremely toxic and kills things it has to be the best. Kinda like how r12 is colder than r134a. My friend has told me that water cools better than coolant. It even says so on a redline water wetter bottle. Water in the winter is no good though.
 

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