NY Catalytic Converters Need CARB Certification Starting June 1st

[Racer X]

I just got this from Rock Auto. This is such shit.

Thanks Cuomo!



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This is a one-time message from RockAuto to help ensure you are aware that an impending New York Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) regulation requires catalytic converters purchased and/or installed in New York after June 1st be certified by the California Air Resources Board (CARB). If you need a catalytic converter for a vehicle located in New York state, then you might consider buying and installing one before June 1st to take advantage of better availability and lower costs.
Catalytic converter manufacturers such as AP, Bosal, Catco, Eastern, Walker, etc. do not yet offer CARB certified catalytic converters for many vehicle applications. Catalytic converters may meet California emissions standards but still may not have the requisite labeling, etc. that make them CARB certified.
Catalytic converters with CARB certification cost more. For example, a Walker catalytic converter without CARB certification for a 2000 Toyota Camry with California emissions currently costs $202 (at RockAuto). A CARB certified catalytic converter built by Walker for the same car costs $269. That is more than a 30% price difference. The price difference could easily exceed 100% when a CARB certified catalytic converter for a specific vehicle is only available from a car dealer.
Once again, this is a one-time message to make sure you are aware of this unique automotive regulatory change in New York. Catalytic converters for your specific vehicles are found under the “Exhaust” category at www.RockAuto.com.
We have prepared this page to help explain CARB certification further: www.rockauto.com/info/emissionsExp.html.
The New York DEC regulation is spelled out here: www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/87411.html.
Best Regards,
Tom Taylor
RockAuto.com

 

[SHOdded]

NY ... we are gunnin' for yer cats! Another "silent" tax. Bravo!

 

[shotime1994]

Another reason to leave this state.

 

[Art5]

You can always convert to LPG. I know guys in Vegas who completely change the whole car's fuel system to LPG. These cars don't use emissions system anymore;nothing that has to do with emissions. They have computer to reflash almost any car's computer to eliminate all of that, and your car becomes alternative fuel vehicle.

 

[Racer X]

I just looked up the legality behind converting to an alt fuel in NYS in light of the new CARB rules.

Nope.

In addition to nope, I found out that:

Examples of Potentially Illegal Conversions

Uncertified dedicated, bi-fuel, or dual fuel CNG or propane systems

- Bio-diesel conversions, also known as vegetable oil or grease car conversions

An entire industry squashed overnight. Wow.

 

[Phoenix]

I just looked up the legality behind converting to an alt fuel in NYS in light of the new CARB rules.

Nope.

In addition to nope, I found out that:

Examples of Potentially Illegal Conversions

Uncertified dedicated, bi-fuel, or dual fuel CNG or propane systems

- Bio-diesel conversions, also known as vegetable oil or grease car conversions

An entire industry squashed overnight. Wow.

you need to move to quebec , you will be allowed to smoke a cigar in your catless hummer.

 

[Art5]

I just looked up the legality behind converting to an alt fuel in NYS in light of the new CARB rules.

Nope.

In addition to nope, I found out that:

Examples of Potentially Illegal Conversions

Uncertified dedicated, bi-fuel, or dual fuel CNG or propane systems

- Bio-diesel conversions, also known as vegetable oil or grease car conversions

An entire industry squashed overnight. Wow.

Only in NYC, everywhere else it is allowed and certified.

 

[Racer X]

The new CARB rules are mandated by the NYS DEC, not by NYC. These rules are applied and enforced statewide.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/89537.html

This is the complete list of CARB certified conversions:
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/afvs/CARB_AFTERMARKET_AFV.PDF

What I said still applies, unfortunately.

 

[Art5]

I will find out exactly how and what they do with it and let you guys know. I know for a fact that they are doing about 200 cars for Yonkers police and few other government vehicles and few taxis and all these conversions are certified.

 

[SHO T1M3]

The new CARB rules are mandated by the NYS DEC, not by NYC. These rules are applied and enforced statewide.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/89537.html

This is the complete list of CARB certified conversions:
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/afvs/CARB_AFTERMARKET_AFV.PDF

What I said still applies, unfortunately.

Does this mean shops will start to look at the cat and check if it is certified? Many shops currently don't even bother checking if the cat is present for most of the cars they inspect. They just hook it up to the computer and as long as there's no CEL, you pass (even if you have catless pipes but turn the 2nd O2 off to prevent the CEL).

 

[SHO T1M3]

The new CARB rules are mandated by the NYS DEC, not by NYC. These rules are applied and enforced statewide.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/89537.html

This is the complete list of CARB certified conversions:
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/afvs/CARB_AFTERMARKET_AFV.PDF

What I said still applies, unfortunately.

I just noticed the original time stamp on this... -_-

 

[rubydist]

there are now 14 states that require CA emissions on new cars and light trucks, so this crap is coming to a lot more places...