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Originally posted by SHO FLY:
[QB]Centerline Wheels is offering a new line of lightweight whels at 40mm offsets at the correct 5x108 bolt patterns each are 14.89lbs apeice

Cool! thumbs_u Thank You, I was looking for other choices...

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256 bucks apeice for the RPMs in Black is the only place I could find them instock from a place here in MN. No one online directly stocks them so if you guys find the cheaper someplace I want them wink

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Damn, could someone please lock this thread and throw it away?? I plan on getting them before the convention in July. I was hoping to be the only one. :D
And where the **** can you get them for $256 apiece?? That's dirt cheap for anything I've found.
 

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$256.00 a piece is a shitload of money.

Pardon my French, but those wheels better make the SHO fly for that price.

This is just my humble opinion, of course, But there are far cheaper alternatives out there to be found.
 

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PrplSHO:
This is just my humble opinion, of course, But there are far cheaper alternatives out there to be found.
He he he he he, yep...... 18's for $149 each.... 17's for $129 each.... but the trade off is the weight. I think my 18's were 56 lbs with the tire mounted and balanced. Cheap enough though to get powder coated in what ever color you choose.
 

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PrplSHO:
$256.00 a piece is a shitload of money.

Pardon my French, but those wheels better make the SHO fly for that price.

This is just my humble opinion, of course, But there are far cheaper alternatives out there to be found.
Yeah, maybe if you want a set of cheaply made, copycat, low quality wheels.
Granted, there are wheel makers that aren't that expensive, but for anything in 17" you're looking at at least $200 a wheel. Unless they are stopping the model, are overstocked or are used, you pay less, you then get what you pay for.
Never mind that these are FORGED wheels. That, my friend, is a very expensive, not the cheap make a mold and pour in some aluminum, wheels. Forged are the strongest, lightest, best wheels on the market. Period. burn_out
 

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P.S. Adding lightweight wheels to your car WILL be adding significant hp to your car, especially if you've hed heavier aftermarket wheels.
I've seen cars with aftermarket wheels lose 6-10 hp compared to the same setup-with stock wheels instead!!
 

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thebigjimsho:
PrplSHO:
$256.00 a piece is a shitload of money.

Pardon my French, but those wheels better make the SHO fly for that price.

This is just my humble opinion, of course, But there are far cheaper alternatives out there to be found.
Yeah, maybe if you want a set of cheaply made, copycat, low quality wheels.
Granted, there are wheel makers that aren't that expensive, but for anything in 17" you're looking at at least $200 a wheel. Unless they are stopping the model, are overstocked or are used, you pay less, you then get what you pay for.
Never mind that these are FORGED wheels. That, my friend, is a very expensive, not the cheap make a mold and pour in some aluminum, wheels. Forged are the strongest, lightest, best wheels on the market. Period. burn_out
Cheaply made copycats???

Hmmmm.....What do you consider copycats? Momo?, Helo??, Enkei?, Racing Hart perhaps? My highest price I've ever paid for wheels was $159.00. This was for 17" TSW VX-1's.

I've looked at some for the SHO, namely Enkei 5+'s and Helo Bezels. I won't be paying anymore than $120 per wheel. ( Sure, I'm only paying 10% over cost, but there ARE deals out there . )

I guess if the weight makes that much of a difference to you ( 6-10 hp anyways. ) then hey, go get 'em, let us know how much they helped your times.

Watch out for potholes though, one run through one of those and I bet you'll be shelling out another 250 clams real quick.
 

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Go with an SVT wheel for your V8SHO Best addition in the land.

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He he he he he, yep...... 18's for $149 each.... 17's for $129 each.... but the trade off is the weight. I think my 18's were 56 lbs with the tire mounted and balanced. Cheap enough though to get powder coated in what ever color you choose.[/QB]
Now please tell me you found the Centerlines for that wink But anyway your paying for weight, your average 150 dollar rim runs 25 pounds or more so a 16 pound rim is 40 pounds off your static weight and much more when you start them spinning. It all depends on if your looking at performance or just looks.

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Oh these poor poor people. The best way to gain hp on vehicles is to reduce weight. As SnoSho has helped to state, cheaper, lower quality, heavier wheels will just rob you of performance that everyone is trying to add. How much are turbo mufflers and underdrive pulleys? How much to install? $400, $500 total?? For $400 extra over these cheaper wheels, you not only gain power, you make a better handling/steering car. And yes, it will increase not only 1/4 mile times, but lap times as well.
Now, not all of the more expensive wheels are lighter. But they are of better quality. They will last longer and look better, longer.
And again, forged wheels are tougher, to withstand those deadly potholes I have been oh so lucky to avoid! :p
Maybe so many people up here have problems with potholes because they don't have high quality wheels.
We all have our agendas. Theres nothing wrong with cheaper wheels. Yes, they can look good as well. But again, you get what you pay for.
Forged wheels are expensive, but they will make my car quicker, more agile, will take the abuse, and with the Centerline RPM, look good in the process. burn_out
 

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One poster above mentioned total weigh, but it got ignored from there on. You need to consider the weight of the tire itself also, not just that of the wheel. And, as you increase the size of the tire from the OEM stock, guess what, the total weigh goes up. More metal, more rubber. So sure, you want to use as light and strong a wheel as you feel you can afford. But since most people increase the wheel size when they change to custom wheels, you might consider you are not going to get a lot lighter when it all totals up.

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for the record not all aftermarket cheap 17's are extreamly heavy...my alessios weigh in at a mere 19lb which is only 1 lb more than stock. Mind you the tires are a bit heavier, but the combo is still within 3 lb of the stock basketweaves.
also i dont particularly like any of the centeriline designs...and damn well wouldnt get 19 inch...you hit a pothole in center city at 40 mph...dont matter if you =r wheels are forged...they are gonna bend. also it is much harder to unbend forged wheels, so if you bend them there is a better chance you are replacing them...thank you but ill stick to my cast aluminum wheels...I would go forged for racing, but not for daily driving.
 

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stephen newberg:
One poster above mentioned total weigh, but it got ignored from there on. You need to consider the weight of the tire itself also, not just that of the wheel. And, as you increase the size of the tire from the OEM stock, guess what, the total weigh goes up. More metal, more rubber. So sure, you want to use as light and strong a wheel as you feel you can afford. But since most people increase the wheel size when they change to custom wheels, you might consider you are not going to get a lot lighter when it all totals up.

pax, smn
Not as much as you think. If you are increasing the diameter of the wheel, you are decreasing the profile of the tire. So even if you widen the tread, the decrease in profile helps to even out weight. So if your 17" weighs less than the stock slicer, the tire wouldn't add much, if at all. Never mind that there a few brands of tires with more nylon belts and fewer steel.
 

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NJshofear:
for the record not all aftermarket cheap 17's are extreamly heavy...my alessios weigh in at a mere 19lb which is only 1 lb more than stock. Mind you the tires are a bit heavier, but the combo is still within 3 lb of the stock basketweaves.
also i dont particularly like any of the centeriline designs...and damn well wouldnt get 19 inch...you hit a pothole in center city at 40 mph...dont matter if you =r wheels are forged...they are gonna bend. also it is much harder to unbend forged wheels, so if you bend them there is a better chance you are replacing them...thank you but ill stick to my cast aluminum wheels...I would go forged for racing, but not for daily driving.
Have you weighed those wheels yourself? Not necessarily doubting, just a question. I've seen wheel charts in I think SCC and all the Alessios looked extremely heavy to me.
Again, I've seen plenty of SHOs with cheap wheels, among other cars. Many look great. But there is a reason certain wheels are so cheap. Whether they share casts with other companies, use cheaper materials, or the wheels are being closed out, I just tend to shy away from them.
By personal experience, even in Boston, I've never lost or bent a wheel due to potholes. And I run more expensive aftermarket wheels on my cars. I've had 2 sets of 17" MOMOs on my '92, have a cheaper set of 16x7 with Goodrich R1s to autoX and have 17" Konig Verdicts on my '01 Accord coupe.
 

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All you need to do is watch your tire presure and you wont bend them on all but the most catostrophic of potholes. I bent a SLicer one summer in one of MN's wonderful VW eating potholes, so even with more tires ever so offen something bad can happen.
But on the Tire note anyone know where I can find weights for styles and brands. Kinda fubars paying that much to get heavier tires and end up just as heavy. Because the RPM should be lighter than the slicers on my 94 by about 6 onces if I can find an even weight tire. Problem being sidewall doesn't weight as much as tread as tread has wearable extra thick rubber over the multiple belts of the tire. But I'm sure a lightweight tire is out there and it probably costs more than the 250 of the Rim wink In the end heres honestly what I'm looking at. I want something few others have, I don't want to add alot of weight, and I want 17's though I wish RPM's were more than 7 inch wide I'd like to have more meat on the pavement.

Tim M.
 

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I just wish I could find a company that would make a smaller 16 inch rim. Either a 16x6.5 like the stock size or even 16x6. I don't have any wheelspin issues to speak of. Even with the smaller 225/50s on. A little bit of spin would probably help get off the line too. I'd certainly pay $500 a rim for a good lightweight rim that will actually fit. I really don't care what it looks like either. It might even be worth a tenth or two at the track.
 

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PrplSHO:
$256.00 a piece is a shitload of money.

Pardon my French, but those wheels better make the SHO fly for that price.

This is just my humble opinion, of course, But there are far cheaper alternatives out there to be found.
Thats cheap, my 18x8 TD's ran me $250ea and weigh in at 24lbs so for 10lbs less and $6 its worth it(if I hadnt bought rims already). C'mon if you can afford $250+ea a rim then never buy and SUV or high class rims like Racing Harts or Lowen Hart(about $600+ea for 18's), just stick with knock-offs.

Also if you hit a pothole at a high enough speed that you bend or damage them in some way you shouldnt have any aftermarket wheels to begin with. If you know they are expensive treat them like they are not like stock rims. Even with my drop and rough ass ride I have yet to scrape bend any of my wheels after 2+yrs of owning them, and trust me my city has its fair share of big 'ole potholes.

<small>[ May 13, 2002, 01:03 AM: Message edited by: RI-SHO ]</small>
 

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