MTX shifting

[lemkea]

okay, i dont have an MTX but i just want to know this. When slowing to a stop in an MTX is it better to downshift through the gears or to just put it in neutral and use your brakes. assuming that i dont care about how much i use the brakes. im just talking which is better on the clutch/transmition? ive heard that putting it in neutral is bad for it....any thoughts?

------------------
1995 SHO ATX, 105K, Coneless, otherwise stock for now. 2 10" Polk/MOMO Subs, Kenwood 749s Amp. Mods on my list when the car gets paid off

 

[RStalveyARFF]

it is best to leave it in gear till about 1500RPM, then shift to neutral, and clutch out.

[This message has been edited by SHO91MTX (edited 11-02-2001).]

 

[smokesho]

it is bad for transmission gears to moving without a gear being selected. everything is syncronized. if you really want to "not downshift" leave it in gear, and keep the clutch down. then shift when you are stopped. or else downshift.

 

[sdpatt]

SHO91MTX said it best.

But once stopped. You can shift to neutral and clutch out to spare the springs and throwout bearing.


------------------
Scott

1991, 252K miles, glass hood, police grill, SVO shifter, Catz fogs,
K&N, 73mm MAF, Superchip, PP Y-pipe, Borla cat-back, 190 lph pump
Eibach/Tokico/polyurethane, SHO Shop front & rear strut braces,
16x7.5" Moda R1, 225/55ZR16 Bridgestone RE730, -1 deg camber x 4,
Class II hitch, Silver award at the SHOklahoma Car Show

 

[RStalveyARFF]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say my previous owners did not follow this procedure, as the TOB was shot, and so were the springs in the disc, actually cracked and had play in them. The disc was in good shape besides the springs, and the PP was totaled. The TOB almost sheared the fingers off.

 

[Shoman594]

when you shift into nutral, do you just take it out of gear or push the clutch in then take it out of gear ?

Ryan

 

[sdpatt]

I do both, but when I can, I do it clutchless. On the approach to a situation where I know I will have to come to a stop, I sometimes wait until the rpms drop down to about 1,200-1,500. In that range there is a point where the gear sets become totally unloaded and the shifter will slip out of gear without any clutch assistance. Just apply a small pressure to the shifter in this rpm range as the car slows and it should slip gently out of gear. Don't force the shifter out of gear or you will be risking wear on the gear teeth. If you drop below the rpm where the IAB valve helps the shifter slip out of gear, be prepared to use the clutch. You will get a good feel for it after a few tries.

Every press of the clutch pedal that you save is another press you can make another day.

Scott

 

[munkee]

Again, Sho91mtx said it best. The owners manual suggests coasting to stop rather than downshifting through the gears to save on gas usage. So rather than putting it into nuetral at 3000, let your engine slow you down some, to about 1500, then put it in nuetral and brake to a stop.

------------------
"It's not just the speed, it's how well you handle it."

 

[philw349]

I've always heard that brake pads are much cheaper to replace than a clutch, when it comes to downshifting on the slow down.

 

[AutoXSHO]

It's not bad for the car at all to coast in neutral, as someone mentioned.

Generally the accepted method for slowing down is to leave the car in gear until about 1500 and then clutch it. I always sit at lights in neutral with the clutch out. It's not bad for the car at all, and I'd rather not have that tension on the cable all the time, thanks

. Man, how hard would it have been to design a hydraulic clutch for this car?


John V


------------------
95 MTX with mods.

 

[philw349]

I thought it had a hydraulic clutch, someone correct me here. Thought rod shifter meant hydraulic, oh well.

 

[badm0nkey]

and this slow down to 1500 rpm, shift with no clutch has no negative effects on engine life?



------------------
tony
93 green mtx sho

(photo courtesy of shotime)
less than stock until i graduate...
or find a rich girlfriend...
badm0nkey's lair
badm0nkey's sho specific page
mailto:[email protected][email protected]</A>
icq=4489268 ps i am an invisible monkey
(...actually i don't have icq because my computer died and i have to use my roommate's... or my parents'... sooner or later i'll win the damn lottery...)

 

[noSHO]

Can pulling the car out of gear w/o the clutch be done in any gear? I've been doing it recently in first, and sometimes in second, but third definitely doesn't work...I'm guessing this is only done in first and maybe second if it's slow enough.

 

[Cruez]

You can actually shift from any gear without using the clutch....except to start up of course....

When the engine speed matches the shaft speed there is a narrow time space that you can shift between gears without using the clutch.....upshifting or downshifting....for downshifting you have to rev the engine up to get it to match the higher shaft speed...
Not easily done though....not recommended, unless your clutch goes out....
------------------

[This message has been edited by Cruez (edited 11-06-2001).]

 

[RStalveyARFF]

Nope, all SHO's are cable operated for the clutch. The rod shifter just shifts the car with a rod instead of a cable, for which you'll never have to worry about cables breaking or losing their tension. Mustangs even have cable operated clutches, I guess it's just how Ford liked to do it, even though it is a rather primitive design.