Messed up shifting?!?!!

[BroOklyn]

Ok bad day to start off just purchased a new mtx the other day and driving on the highway today was in 5th about 75 then dropped it into 3rd...then went to shift into 4th about 90 went into 2nd.
the car was barking and through it into neutral but it was to late.
i pulled over and shut off the car. then a few minutes later started the car but didnt want to start then started but is running really ruff and there's barley no clutch pedal. then let it sit for 15 minutes and drove home since i was about a 1/2 a mile away but the car is running rough really rough. im sure theres something wrong with the tranny but how bout motor...wat can it be and the car is running hott!!!! Please need some help or the right direction

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Sounds like you probably broke a pressure plate strap. You may have also popped a coolant hose when you hit the rev limiter.

 

[93rev2sev]

Severe downshifts like that have been known to do all kinds of damage. Especially if the motor mounts are not in very good shape.

Worst scenario is that you broke your transmission case, where the shifter linkage bolts to it.

 

[jthod]

Money Shift!

 

[yzstud]

Sounds like you probably broke a pressure plate strap. You may have also popped a coolant hose when you hit the rev limiter.

+1
that exact same thing happened to me like 1 month ago, doing about 90 in 3rd went to shift into 4th and boom, felt like i hit 2nd gear
anyways, i blew a pressue plate strap along with the coolant hose that comes from the bottom of the block to the heater hose pipe

 

[newby92]

same thing happened to me... put it was a fourth to fifth shift that went back into third. broke a clutch strap... dug into the tranny case. motor was completely fine. it was so violent the fron wheels started to lock and the tach was burried way past 7grand. sounded horrible but the engine was fine. had to replace the clutch and tranny, but that was it.

 

[BroOklyn]

so do u guys think the motor is running rough maybe because the tranny is bad can this be? checked for leaks but did't see anything plus it was dark but will check in the am

 

[BroOklyn]

just checked for leaks see fluid where the engine meets the tranny looks like oil...does the mtx use tranny fluid or oil as fluid because i kno some cars use oil as tranny fluid.

 

[Kens1992mtxSHO]

Transmission fluid...

 

[newby92]

most likely its transmission fluid because the clutch straps broke and shredded the wet wall of the transmission. your dumping all your tranny fluid so dont drive it anywhere. if your lucky it didnt gouge the case too bad and can be re welded by a competent aluminum welder. or it could be a complete loss. the only way that it is oil is if the clutch totally shredded and ate through the rear main seal of the motor or crushed/tore the aluminum cover that the seal mounts in. only one way to find out... tear into it and see what the carnage actually is.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

so do u guys think the motor is running rough maybe because the tranny is bad can this be? checked for leaks but did't see anything plus it was dark but will check in the am

By breaking a pressure plate strap, you now have a huge mass of unbalanced steel bolted to the end of your crankshaft. That imbalance is going to cause the engine to run rough and vibrate. The first thing you want to do is stop running the engine!

The next thing you're going to need to do is get that transmission and clutch pulled to see the extent of the damage. Unless there is an obvious tranny fluid leak, don't get too worried about the tranny being blown until you can get it out and look at it. I've seen people with shredded pressure plates that while they did a number to the inside of the bellhousing never got anywhere near breaching the wet portion of the case.

FWIW, if you're not adventurous enough to pull the tranny on your own, you can start by pulling just the starter and get a light and inspection mirror in there to see what's going on. You can pull the pass. side tire and have someone slowly turn the motor by hand to inspect the PP, etc.

 

[BroOklyn]

By breaking a pressure plate strap, you now have a huge mass of unbalanced steel bolted to the end of your crankshaft. That imbalance is going to cause the engine to run rough and vibrate. The first thing you want to do is stop running the engine!

The next thing you're going to need to do is get that transmission and clutch pulled to see the extent of the damage. Unless there is an obvious tranny fluid leak, don't get too worried about the tranny being blown until you can get it out and look at it. I've seen people with shredded pressure plates that while they did a number to the inside of the bellhousing never got anywhere near breaching the wet portion of the case.

FWIW, if you're not adventurous enough to pull the tranny on your own, you can start by pulling just the starter and get a light and inspection mirror in there to see what's going on. You can pull the pass. side tire and have someone slowly turn the motor by hand to inspect the PP, etc.

Wats the PP? is that the pressure plate?

 

[BroOklyn]

I would really like to tear it down myself becuase i took down and put a new tranny in my old 93 atx before. But i just dont have the time i just opened my own bussiness and i work about 70-80 hours a week full 7 days but asked about a tranny shop and friends told me this place and the guy is charging $400 just to drop it and inspect it. So maybe im looking at $1000 or so? i mean it is hard to tell before tearing it down so

 

[Mr Anonymous]

$400 is very reasonable for tranny R&R. We get $700.

Figure around $300 or so for a clutch kit, plus $40 or so to re-surface the flywheel and you should be able to get out of it for $800 or so presuming nothing else breaks during the R&R.

Of course if the tranny is seriously damaged, add another $300-$500 for a good used tranny.

Yes, PP=Pressure Plate, and before you ask, R&R=Remove and Reinstall.

 

[TYSHO]

Ok bad day to start off just purchased a new mtx the other day and driving on the highway today was in 5th about 75 then dropped it into 3rd...then went to shift into 4th about 90 went into 2nd.

And this is the same car you didn't want to purchase if it had indeed been ran on nitrous because it's not good on the motor from what you heard? :corn:


Good luck on the repair! Just know that you shouldn't be charged more than one additional hour of labor if the clutch kit is the only part being replaced, that's more than enough time to have a lunch and complete the install.

 

[BroOklyn]

$400 is very reasonable for tranny R&R. We get $700.

Figure around $300 or so for a clutch kit, plus $40 or so to re-surface the flywheel and you should be able to get out of it for $800 or so presuming nothing else breaks during the R&R.

Of course if the tranny is seriously damaged, add another $300-$500 for a good used tranny.

Yes, PP=Pressure Plate, and before you ask, R&R=Remove and Reinstall.

Thanks man :thankyou:i should hopefully take the car to the shop hopefully the next few weeks becaus of financial issues.

And this is the same car you didn't want to purchase if it had indeed been ran on nitrous because it's not good on the motor from what you heard? :corn:
no this isnt that car that one was a wht 94 atx this one is the 94 green mtx

Good luck on the repair! Just know that you shouldn't be charged more than one additional hour of labor if the clutch kit is the only part being replaced, that's more than enough time to have a lunch and complete the install.

thanks bro good to know so the guy doesnt try to screw me over

 

[BroOklyn]

And this is the same car you didn't want to purchase if it had indeed been ran on nitrous because it's not good on the motor from what you heard? :corn:


no that one we thought with the nitrous was the 94 wht atx this one is the 94 green mtx

 

[sho2see]

Sooo got the car checked out....The guy said he thinks i bent a connecting rod and the engine would have to be pulled out to inspect, he said he doesnt thinks it the transmission because the car still goes in gear and moves but the engine is running bad. he said he thinks the crank is bad plus its leaking oil right behind the flywheel the rear main seal. Any input probably true? if so should i just replace the motor plus this motor had a lot of maintence on it like both 60k, new chains, etc.

 

[randy'sho]

Sooo got the car checked out....The guy said he thinks i bent a connecting rod and the engine would have to be pulled out to inspect, he said he doesnt thinks it the transmission because the car still goes in gear and moves but the engine is running bad. he said he thinks the crank is bad plus its leaking oil right behind the flywheel the rear main seal. Any input probably true? if so should i just replace the motor plus this motor had a lot of maintence on it like both 60k, new chains, etc.

sucks to hear this! i remember seeing that car on ebay....it is sweet!!! hope that you get it all figured out man.....(pm me if you change your mind on the springs)

 

[93rev2sev]

Sooo got the car checked out....The guy said he thinks i bent a connecting rod and the engine would have to be pulled out to inspect, he said he doesnt thinks it the transmission because the car still goes in gear and moves but the engine is running bad. he said he thinks the crank is bad plus its leaking oil right behind the flywheel the rear main seal. Any input probably true? if so should i just replace the motor plus this motor had a lot of maintence on it like both 60k, new chains, etc.

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