I'm running Meth without being dependent.

[SeanDev]

My first round with Brad AJP turbo is done. My car has a 92 AO tune . I must say he knows what he is doing. He understood I wanted, to run meth but not be dependent. So we made a compromise, my degree of timing being AO tune allowed me to run a AEM 50/50 kit with a 250cc nozzle and not being tuned for it. I've done 2 dozen runs to engage the spray and the car responded instantly and had 0 issues.And my b u t t Dyno was impressed. I did a log for Brad without meth and my iat2 hit 150. I have logged same 3 pulls for myself and with meth the highest temp was 105, these pulls were done on 95 degree days. Biggest plus is I get more cooling and a little more power. And if I have a meth failure the car can adjust without the worry of damage. Very happy with the result. Keeping meth for the next step into a E30 tune. After E30 and when DPs arrive I should be at 400whp and 500tq on stock pumps, and stock IC. Not bad for not being meth dependent. My car gets the high without the overdose.The filter is above the pump and the nozzle is higher than the pump And I used the washer tank. I start for spray at 7psi. A full on/off setup, non-progressive. Here is some pics of my install. I know some might cringe on where I put the pump but it works just fine. It cut down my I install, only took 4hrs.

 

[802SHO]

Oh yeah Brad is the man! The pump install is not where I would have put it but if it works….that’s all that matters. You can access the pump, check for leaks, etc without pulling off the front bumper.

 

[SeanDev]

That was the plus. Not having to remove front bumper, I know the pumps like to be gravity fed, but I took this approach, a heck of alot less tubing, less wiring, easy removal of pump if it fails.i mounted filter above pump as to keep some fluid above pump at all times. If pump fails early before 2 years I'll relocate at that time.

 

[DadMobile]

My first round with Brad AJP turbo is done. My car has a 92 OA tune . I must say he knows what he is doing. He understood I wanted, to run meth but not be dependent. So we made a compromise, my degree of timing being AO tune allowed me to run a AEM 50/50 kit with a 250cc nozzle and not being tuned for it. I've done 2 dozen runs to engage the spray and the car responded instantly and had 0 issues.And my b u t t Dyno was impressed. I did a log for Brad without meth and my iat2 hit 150. I have logged same 3 pulls for myself and with meth the highest temp was 105, these pulls were done on 95 degree days. Biggest plus is I get more cooling and a little more power. And if I have a meth failure the car can adjust without the worry of damage. Very happy with the result. Keeping meth for the next step into a E30 tune. After E30 and when DPs arrive I should be at 400whp and 500tq on stock pumps, and stock IC. Not bad for not being meth dependent. My car gets the high without the overdose.The filter is above the pump and the nozzle is higher than the pump And I used the washer tank. I start for spray at 7psi. A full on/off setup, non-progressive. Here is some pics of my install. I know some might cringe on where I put the pump but it works just fine. It cut down my I install, only took 4hrs.

Good stuff. Methanol makes such a big difference in building full boost quickly. Like you I was shocked at the initial difference. Every go fast SHO should have it!

 

[SM105K]

Brad knows his way around hot climate and hot IAT2 tunes.

 

[ButtonPuncher]

Nice work!

Noob here, so the single nozzle setup, that's just for the cooling effect and maybe a bit of intake valve cleaning? I'm guessing that you'd need direct port to augment the fuel system?


Thanks,
Ben

 

[SeanDev]

Nice work!

Noob here, so the single nozzle setup, that's just for the cooling effect and maybe a bit of intake valve cleaning? I'm guessing that you'd need direct port to augment the fuel system?


Thanks,
Ben

Not really, direct port evens out the distribution, some go the 2 nozzle route, one before throttle body and one directly after. Direct inject I believe no one is making that intake anymore. Cooling affect is 1st. But since I have a AO tune the car adjusts and changes the timing allowing for more boost from cooler air plus methanol as a octane booster. Most run dependent, but, there is a risk of damage if meth kit fails. Where for me I get half the horsepower benefits my way but none of the hazards if my kit fails, the car has enough time to adjust with no meth spray. So I'm achieving maybe 20hp-25hp vs if tune was dependent on meth I would see a 50+HP gain.

 

[802SHO]

Pro Meth sells direct port meth injection, the intake is simply reusing your own. Meth reliant tunes need the fuel pressure, that’s the difference. More boost, you typically need more fuel and the protection against knock with cooling and octane. It might just be that if the pump fails the tune is no longer “safe” it’s more “reckless”. My recommendation is buy Alky Control and don’t worry about it. Seems AEM and Snow….are finicky.

 

[Ecoboost_xsport]

ProMeth isn't the only one with direct injection, however. If others are interested, there are some other options out there.

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[DadMobile]

Pro Meth sells direct port meth injection, the intake is simply reusing your own. Meth reliant tunes need the fuel pressure, that’s the difference. More boost, you typically need more fuel and the protection against knock with cooling and octane. It might just be that if the pump fails the tune is no longer “safe” it’s more “reckless”. My recommendation is buy Alky Control and don’t worry about it. Seems AEM and Snow….are finicky.

The AEM V3 pump and controller work great. The nozzle is unreliable trash! That’s my thought in on the AEM system

 

[SeanDev]

The AEM V3 pump and controller work great. The nozzle is unreliable trash! That’s my thought in on the AEM system

I have to agree. I like my AEM system, but I should have gotten a devil's own nozzle.

 

[SeanDev]

The AEM V3 pump and controller work great. The nozzle is unreliable trash! That’s my thought in on the AEM system

Update on my AEM nozzle, yes it is a piece of ****. After 2 gallons of 50/50 I was having hard starting problems when on the E30 tune and so on a whim , had another rough start-up I stopped removed nozzle and found my pipe wet, so the D A M N AEM nozzle was allowing syphoning. Disassembled nozzle and the O Ring for the AEM check valve was already ****. So just an hour ago, order a new nozzle, and accessories from Devil's Own. I'm cautioning those newbies like me that are reading this, those who use AEM nozzles, save yourself and find another. The AEM pump, controller and simplicity of there kit for wiring is great, but I will a never use a AEM nozzle again. Junk.

 

[DadMobile]

It’s borderline criminal how bad the AEM nozzle is.

 

[SeanDev]

It’s borderline criminal how bad the AEM nozzle is.

I new something had to be going on, last week did a log for Brad for this problem and his only response was "what nozzle are you using?" that spooked me right there.

 

[76FoMoCo]

love the alky kit.... 3 years strong and only had to change the pump once. I think you can only get about 1-2 years out of a pump tho.

 

[SeanDev]

love the alky kit.... 3 years strong and only had to change the pump once. I think you can only get about 1-2 years out of a pump tho.

Yeah I messed up, what i get for trying to save a few bucks.

 

[FiveLeeter918]

Setup looks clean, are you running a check valve to prevent pump cavitation? That's my only concern with running the pump where you have it and being about 18" above the washer tank. Typically you always want to mount the pump BELOW the reservoir.

Time to get it out to the track and see what she can do!

 

[jtreber]

love the alky kit.... 3 years strong and only had to change the pump once. I think you can only get about 1-2 years out of a pump tho.

I'm probably on borrowed time but my Alky kit has been on my daily driver 2015 since 6 months after rolling new off the showroom, still on the original pump without a problem.

 

[SeanDev]

Setup looks clean, are you running a check valve to prevent pump cavitation? That's my only concern with running the pump where you have it and being about 18" above the washer tank. Typically you always want to mount the pump BELOW the reservoir.

Time to get it out to the track and see what she can do!

AEM nozzle has a built in check valve but the O-ring that's in-between the quick connect and check valve already failed. When I purchased the kit, the 250cc was already installed by AEM and brad wanted me to use there smallest nozzle so I never took nozzle apart until my rough starts where getting out of hand and that's when I saw ring smashed and cut on one side, whoever assembled it before it got to me obviously didn't care about there work. When I ordered a devils own nozzle this morning I also got there check valve and low profile holder. And yeah I kept thinking of putting pump down there, but after sitting on it for a night I went this route, not being tuned for meth was the only reason I did what I did that and time of install. So even if there is a failure, I wont suffer the consequences nor have to take front end apart to start over.

 

[SeanDev]

Setup looks clean, are you running a check valve to prevent pump cavitation? That's my only concern with running the pump where you have it and being about 18" above the washer tank. Typically you always want to mount the pump BELOW the reservoir.

Time to get it out to the track and see what she can do!

And she is being babied until my new mount arrives. My first wheel hop on E30 and I thought I snapped something, was enough for me to realize I needed to upgrade. My PPE DPs show up in 2 weeks "fingers crossed" and when there installed plus install of 370cc nozzle from Devils, new mount, then its off to Dyno then strip.