Getting Really MAD

[SHOleen]

Every other week i have a new problem, 3 weeks ago it was the IAB, Then the Fuel Pump and Now its something i dont know, Maybe you guys know what it is , First of all it idles respectfully,but when you give it gas it backfires and pops, then it seems like it missing, then the power surges drasticlly and feels like i am getting a real bad detenation, It all started sunday when i washed the engine bay with gunk sprayed it off, the front cylinders were filled with water and missing so i took all the water out of them and then i started it up and it was fine then 2 hours later it came back, i checked my cats and they were red hot, and spitting white stuff out the tail pipe, I ran some codes and got O2 sensor not swithching on the front bank and egr not opening well i had these two codes for a about 3 months now and it never had a problem so i think its the wires even though they have been replace about 2 years ago and they only have about 20k on them so what now? please help its ******* me off too a point where i want to go buy a honda, AND I HATE THEM WITH A PASSION

 

[sdpatt]

Nooooooooooooooooooo! Never use water on a computer controlled engine. Use the search feature. Others have made this mistake too.

 

[Dr.Evil]

Put a BIG fan on it and leave it blowing all night and see if that helps....Thats how I had to fix it where I washed my motor with the hose. Now you know better I guess.

 

[svtman]

I did a search on this, and finally just ignored the advice of most people here as my engine was an absolute pigpen. I power washed it and it came out nice and clean. I did have misfiring afterwards, but nothing that a bunch of paper towels, a clotheshanger, and an air compressor could not cure. Afterwards, I even left all 6 plug wires pulled out of the hot engine to evaporate any remaining water. Runs like a champ again.

Dave

 

[FOSHO94]

I know a lot of people that wash their engines like that and they never have a problem. If that isn't the right way, what is the best way to keep your engine clean?

 

[jthomas68]

So you cared enough to do a search,then completely ignored what you read?

 

[svtman]

If you saw my engine you'd understand. I only spent about an hour drying it out when I would have spent about 4 hours trying to clean every nook and cranny - not to mention the cleaners I would have needed, etc. Still would not have been as good as a pressure wash either IMO. I don't think the engine was ever washed - it was that dirty. And curing the misfire was easy.

Dave

 

[89 Gary]

You didn't say you blew the water out of the rear cylinders! Do that,blow the wires off,keep off over night and you'll have no problems. ALWAYS blow out your plug wells and everything else after washing. Unless some of you realize how much salt,dirt,crap covers our engines up here in COLD country than you won't realize it's the easiest way and best way to clean it. I'll say it again--------as long as you "wave" the LOW pressure hose back and forth and back and forth-and do the above clause with the air-you won't have a problem. I've done it hundreds of times with NO problems. boink

 

[Off Road SHO]

sdpatt:
Nooooooooooooooooooo! Never use water on a computer controlled engine. Use the search feature. Others have made this mistake too.

I would have liked to hear you verbalize that first word Scott.

He's right of course, you're asking for trouble if you mix water with electronic control. Even if you think you blew it all out, you didn't. The hidden droplets in confined spaces will eventually evaporate, but only into the air of the confined space giving you air that is highly saturated with moisture, condensing on every little contact, wire or connector. Power washing is without a doubt alot easier and faster, but it's not better.

Just my 5.8 cents worth. (Inflation)

Tom

<small>[ March 25, 2003, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: ThomasDooley ]</small>

 

[SHOleen]

Okay its been two days now and i checked the fronts and rear plugs not too much condensation in there i also replaced two o2 sensors just now and now fix i will put a fan on it and let it dry for a couple of hours any other piece of advice to make it go faster.

 

[FordSHO90]

Not to give you bad news but my step-brother washed his engine down too. It immediately started misfiring from all the water that went into the motor. It was all over the plugs when we pulled them out. We got new plugs and it seemed to run fine for a while. About two weeks later he was driving home from school when smoke started coming out of the motor. It completely gernaded the motor. shrug Everything had to be fixed and the block was scored really bad. It was overbored almost to the maximum. We learned a lesson from this...Never Wash A Motor With Water Ever!! No matter how bad it looks if you want to wash it spend some time with a damp rag and wash it by hand. thumbs_u

Bryan

 

[Detenator]

This kinda gets me worried because a lot of used car lots have a habit of power washing the engine with a stream of water to make it look nice and clean for the customer. How can they get away with selling the cars after doing that?

 

[jthomas68]

svtman:
If you saw my engine you'd understand. I only spent about an hour drying it out when I would have spent about 4 hours trying to clean every nook and cranny - not to mention the cleaners I would have needed, etc. Still would not have been as good as a pressure wash either IMO. I don't think the engine was ever washed - it was that dirty. And curing the misfire was easy.

Dave

Do it right or don`t do it at all.You may still have problems down the road.

 

[svtman]

jthomas68:
Do it right or don`t do it at all.You may still have problems down the road.

<small>[ March 25, 2003, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: svtman ]</small>

 

[sdpatt]

jthomas68:
So you cared enough to do a search,then completely ignored what you read?

What's the point of trying to give advice when so many just demand to learn the hard way.

 

[jasonty]

Hmm... I dunno, I usually spray that engine degreasing stuff over the really dirty nasty parts, then i take a garden hose and wash everything off. Never had a problem. But in my shop, when we're trying to find oil leaks, we pull out the pressure washer and go to town on the engine bay. Never had a problem with it.

 

[yamahaSHO]

jasonty:
Hmm... I dunno, I usually spray that engine degreasing stuff over the really dirty nasty parts, then i take a garden hose and wash everything off. Never had a problem. But in my shop, when we're trying to find oil leaks, we pull out the pressure washer and go to town on the engine bay. Never had a problem with it.

I have never had a problem either. Although, I would not use a pressure washer. If you are getting water in your plug wells, then you did not have a good seal to start with. Plus, you should spray directly on top of the boots. Oh well... I will continue to wash like I always have.

 

[SHOleen]

Just to let you know my dad (who can be a dick) helped me and found that when the spark plug area was flooded it caused a short in the wire and the plastic boot cracked and caused arching we fixed it some electrical tape silicone (until get money for new wires) It runs like a champ again(while he was testing he got elecricuted a little i laughed a lot)

 

[jthomas68]

sdpatt:

jthomas68:
So you cared enough to do a search,then completely ignored what you read?

What's the point of trying to give advice when so many just demand to learn the hard way.

I`ll give you a shiny new nickle if you can tell me the answer to that one Scott.

 

[svtman]

EDIT - no more reponses from me. I had easily solved issues and am happy with my clean pressure-washed engine.

Dave

<small>[ March 25, 2003, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: svtman ]</small>