Fuel guage?

[Pablo sho]

My guage stays on full all the time. Anyone else have this problem?

 

[stephen newberg]

I have never had it, but there is a float in the tank that sends the level information and it is doubtless stuck in the upper position. You should be able to fix this fairly easily by removing it and either fixing it or replacing it, but you have to drop the tank to get to it, IIRC.

pax, smn

 

[GEN 3 SHO FAN]

I confirm that you have to drop the tank to do that. The gage is part of the fuel pump.

If you go there, I suggest to put a younger fuel pump (rather than paying to repair it) and recover your tank with pitch or something like to prevent corrosion (if it's still in good shape). You can do this also for passenger rear brake hose and tank straps retainer as it will be accessible at this moment.

 

[Pablo sho]

I have never heard of one sticking in the up position. Is this a known problem with sho's?

 

[98SF19]

Is this a known problem with sho's?

More likely just a problem with old cars.

Here's an easier way to get to fuel pump, especially if you're going to be keeping the car for a while:
(Thanks to Eric "E1")
http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/Fuel pump cutout.htm

 

[GEN 3 SHO FAN]

Never rode on that too. I think I kept my old one, I will check it next time. The floating part moves another one which doing a smaller move in a smaller area. Maybe something is bad there (dirt in ?). Here is a photo :



For the hole under the rear seat, it's a good idea but it's not complete. You have to unplug the pressure sensor of which the wire is a part of the fuel pump assembly. (Don't want crititize Eric as he I did a lot of thing for Taurus owners and put real good infos here by the way.)

The sensor isn't in the hole or beside it, it's a little more at the left seat for 96/97 . For these years, you have to make a taller hole (6 inches from the pump)... However, this is perfect for a 98 (sensor on the pump). 99 have their sensor on the rear part of the tank (even worst, 12-15 inches).

 

[Pablo sho]

Lol. 96 sho is my newest car. Not saying it's not possible just never happened to me. It's not taking fuel very good either so I may drop the tank but thought I would see if anyone else had this problem first.

 

[Pablo sho]

I read about a relay or something behind the radio?

 

[GEN 3 SHO FAN]

Put the link at least it will easier for us.

 

[98SF19]

Not saying it's not possible just never happened to me

Nor am I, and me neither.
As for the fuelling issue, I remember another user recently posting about having problems filling tank. Sounds like dropping the dirty dog is the way to go.

 

[Pablo sho]

Yea. Sucks when the guage don't work and dont know how far it will go if it clicks off before it's full.

 

[gamefanatic]

If you use your trip meter, you should be good refueling at 240-260 miles. Of course this also depends on the tank size included. It should be 18 Gallons, but have heard of 16 Gallons showing up on some versions. The 16 gallon is standard for SLO models.

 

[Pablo sho]

Thank you. I have been going about 200 so far. AC only works for about 20 minutes so it's sitting until it cools down or I get it fixed.

 

[stephen newberg]

Parts for the AC in our cars have gotten very expensive, or so I have been told.

The gas tank size has been an ongoing question for years with, to my mind, no really definitive answer. When I have run the tank low during long trips on the highway, I have regularly been able to put just shy of 20 gallons in, but that includes filling the filler neck. As there was still gas in the tank (that is, I came in running, not actually empty) I suspect that we are actually looking at close to that amount for tank size. There was a reference from Ford that they had gone to a larger than normal to Taurus Gen III tanks for the SHO as the V8 was more thirsty than the V6 standard motors, and in fact the long and convoluted filler neck in the SHOs was due to that different tank size. But past that, I have never been able to confirm actual tank size and I think the only way to do it would be to drop one and do a measured fill. No ont that I know of has done so.

pax, smn

 

[gamefanatic]

A/C depends on where you source your parts. Ours are based on the TRS090 which is primarily a Honda compressor. You can find "new" Chinese style from a company called UAC which is usually less than $160. If you go the reman route the price jumps to $370ish.

Your choice how you go there, but depends on the root issue. Is 12V getting to it, is it leaking freon, is there an issue with the alternator?

If you are replacing the compressor you will be require (warranty) to replace the accumulator ~$60 (recommend 4 seasons), and the orifice tube ~$5, 8 oz of PAG 46 ~$8. Technically your supposed to replace the liquid line that holds the orifice tube, so depending you replace the hole tube, or buy an inline adapter, or just pull the old one out and squeeze the new one in May affect costs here. If you have a shop pull / refill the system and you do the work expect about $25-$40 per lb of freon. Total cost on my last with the cheap Chinese A/C was about $400 labor all done by me.

Shops have various guidance on cleaning a system from running cleaning fluid, chasing with nitrogen, or even not doing that and just running the system for a while with a disposable filter.

Also keep in mind that replacing some of the lines "should" require draining the coolant and removing the tank, so that may be an additional cost.

Some shops may recommend replacement of the condenser and/or evaporative core. Be sure to question the requirement of this. If the compressor failed and shredded it's self, you can expect to replace the condenser. Another reason may be excessive damage to the condensor.

Condensors ~$120.

Very very rare the evaporator coil is a culprit, but are inexpensive. It will require several hours of labor to replace. Which may be an issue if not necessary.

I have yet to find an OEM clutch/pull for our A/C's. I am looking into the possibility of getting the Honda version which is less than $100 as opposed to the old stock being sold on eBay/Amazon. They are no longer produced as I understand by Ford.

 

[GEN 3 SHO FAN]

If you use your trip meter, you should be good refueling at 240-260 miles. Of course this also depends on the tank size included. It should be 18 Gallons, but have heard of 16 Gallons showing up on some versions. The 16 gallon is standard for SLO models.

16 gallons is also standard for SHOs. 18 gallons was made for SLO wagons according to what I rode over time. The official size is 16 gallons but some suspected (V8SHO.com) that the true capacity is a little more because the fuel pump must be kept submerged to stay cool and reliable over time. 16 gallons tanks are exchangeable between SLO and SHO of the same year.

I have one tank sleeping somewhere, maybe I can do the filling test one day but the result will be in liters...

 

[gamefanatic]

I stand corrected. Gen3 SHO Fan is correct. ~16 gallons.