Front solid motor mount

[Sho Amo]

How about when you put it in reverse? Thats kinda dangerous because if your rear mount lets go completely you're screwed.

But im sure you will have a great answer to that question. Dont put it in reverse?
Now thats called Ni**A rigging.

 

[rick-ng]

It probably doesn't have a warranty anymore since you modified it...

You would think that,but they always do exchanges like this and hardly ever inspect the product being returned

lol

 

[moobypets]

here mine and i replaced 4 mount on that damn 3.8 mustang and it was killing the mount under 4 month







and this made it last for ever even when it was broken and soft lol i was still strong

 

[whiteguy3]

But im sure you will have a great answer to that question. Dont put it in reverse?
Now thats called Ni**A rigging.

Sure is

 

[SHOZ123]

I made up a rear mount filled with urethane. But the only mount I ever broke was the tranny side mount. If you have a chain the rear mount never gets stressed.

But I am talking about the Gen 3 V8. Not a V6 SHO or any SLO.

 

[jonheese]

How about when you put it in reverse? Thats kinda dangerous because if your rear mount lets go completely you're screwed.

But im sure you will have a great answer to that question. Dont put it in reverse?
Now thats called Ni**A rigging.

Do you really have a problem with too-high torque in reverse? Are you flooring it backing out of your driveway or something? If it's really an issue, you can chain down the rear exhaust manifold too.

A solid mount is solid under compression, extension and stasis. This means that it transmits vibration 100% of the time, and it keeps the engine from moving both forward and rearward.

A chain is solid under extension only, not compression, and if left a hair loose, not under stasis either. This means that it only transmits vibration only when under extension (i.e. accelerating enough to take up the slack in the chain). It only restricts rearward engine movement.

They solve two different problems, and IMO there is elegance in simplicity. If you knew Paul (SHOZ123), you'd know that just about everything he does is well thought-out and engineered, and I'm confident that he went with the chain design because it made the most sense for what he wanted to accomplish.

I don't think it's ghetto or "rigged" at all. It's simple, but well-designed, and IMO the best solutions fit that description to a T.

YMMV.

 

[nothingtoseehere]

How about when you put it in reverse? Thats kinda dangerous because if your rear mount lets go completely you're screwed.

But im sure you will have a great answer to that question. Dont put it in reverse?
Now thats called Ni**A rigging.

Please tell me you are not speaking to Paul.

 

[jonheese]

Something just occurred to me... You guys realize that Paul isn't suggesting that anyone replace the front mount with a chain, right? It's a supplemental addition.

I'm still struggling to figure out how "if your rear mount lets go completely you're screwed" any more with a chain than without a chain, and that was the only thing I could think of.

 

[moobypets]

ny chain was a tad loose and almost no vibration in the car under load

 

[whiteguy3]

A solid mount is solid under compression, extension and stasis. This means that it transmits vibration 100% of the time, and it keeps the engine from moving both forward and rearward.

Correct. But were talking about SHO's here not a BMW. If you are going for that 'smooth' ride from your car you wouldn't be trying to tie a chain around the manifold. Who cares about a little vibration at that point.

I don't think it's ghetto or "rigged" at all. It's simple, but well-designed, and IMO the best solutions fit that description to a T.

Nobody's hating. It works, it's just ghetto. Well designed...I wouldn't call it well designed just that it serves the purpose for what he is going for. The best solution in all honesty would be a mount that does it's job under stress.

Good idea none-the-less and I guess a couple people are happy with it. Just thought I would answer the question, "Does anybody make a solid front mount for the GEN 3?"

 

[Izzmo]

Dude.. we know, and we don't care.

First of all.. stop using 'ghetto'. If by 'ghetto', you mean cheap, well that's the point because no one wants to buy an over-expensive solid peice of metal that accomplishes the exact same task as a solid steel chain.

If you are going for that 'smooth' ride from your car you wouldn't be trying to tie a chain around the manifold. Who cares about a little vibration at that point.

If you were going for a smooth ride, you wouldn't want a solid motor mount.

 

[whiteguy3]

Dude.. we know, and we don't care.

Hmmm...We? Those couple of PM's I got answering my questions and gauging interest obviously doesn't sound like we. Your a funny dude.

First of all.. stop using 'ghetto'. If by 'ghetto', you mean cheap, well that's the point because no one wants to buy an over-expensive solid peice of metal that accomplishes the exact same task as a solid steel chain.

Your a waste in this conversation.

If you were going for a smooth ride, you wouldn't want a solid motor mount.

That's the exact point I was trying to make dumba**. What difference would it make about vibration at that point.

 

[Izzmo]

Hmmm...We? Those couple of PM's I got answering my questions and gauging interest obviously doesn't sound like we. Your a funny dude.



Your a waste in this conversation.



That's the exact point I was trying to make dumba**. What difference would it make about vibration at that point.

Well aren't you just a firecracker. Why don't you read all your posts with the responses above and tell me why you are still talking?

 

[hawkeye18]

But it is pretty funny. I like the chain.

 

[whiteguy3]

Looking at some of your old posts you had a hard time figuring out about motor mounts themselves...makes me think your even more worthless to this conversation than I thought.

And jason stop making me laugh, i wanna get a little angrier!...lol I'll peace out on that

 

[Izzmo]

Looking at some of your old posts you had a hard time figuring out about motor mounts themselves...makes me think your even more worthless to this conversation than I thought.

And jason stop making me laugh, i wanna get a little angrier!...lol I'll peace out on that

Dude, you keep digging yourself into a hole. I didn't give any input into this conversation other than putting this nicely to you: "Shut the f uck up". No wants your input given that you just criticize the **** out of something.

If you could have figured it out for yourself the first time, I probably wouldn't have said something as this topic, I felt anyway, was interesting till you showed up.

 

[whiteguy3]

Well aren't you just a little firecracker.

 

[Izzmo]

Well I'm mellow.. I don't know about you.

 

[jonheese]

How about a little thread recap, just to make sure everyone's on the same page:

rick-ng asked if anyone made a solid front motor mount for the V8 SHO.

SHO U UP said he hadn't heard of any.

LuigiSHO linked to Daniel Holtman's urethane-filled mounts post on TCCA.

whiteguy3 said that urethane-filled is not the same as solid, and that he could probably make some if anyone was interested.

SHOZ123 said he used a chain with good results and provided pictures.

SHO U UP liked the chains idea.

whiteguy3 said that was a horrible way to accomplish the same thing as a solid mount.

LuigiSHO liked the chains idea.

whiteguy3 said it was ghetto and risky, even though it's the way it's been done for a long time and he had no explanation of the purported risks. He said it was cheap, but other than that, inferior to a solid mount.

SHOZ123 explained further why it worked better than a solid mount.

rick-ng and Izzmo discussed a modified SLO solid mount from Autozone and whether or not the modification would void the warranty.

Sho Amo asked about putting the car in reverse with a torque chain on and both he and whiteguy3 said it was "ni**A rigging".

I asked why anyone was having issues with high torque loads on the engine in reverse but got no answer.

moobypets came in from Canada with pics of his Essex torque chain and everyone ignored him.

whiteguy3 brought up BMWs for some unknown reason and then said he wasn't hating while calling it ghetto and inferior to a solid mount.

And that's when the thread went off the rails...

 

[jonheese]

As far as I can tell, no one has actually claimed any advantages of the solid mount over the chain concept, other than the fact that the chain is "ghetto", "ni**A rigged", "risky" and "dangerous", with no explanation about how or why this is the case.

The chain, on the other hand, is cheaper, quicker, easier, doesn't transmit vibration under compression or stasis, and limits engine movement (and in both directions if you use 2 chains) same as (or better than) a solid mount. At least three well-respected forum members (not counting myself) defended the chain idea as being at least a good solution, if not superior to a solid mount.