Dream car: Lamborghini, Porsche, or . . . ?

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I've always said, I would prefer an American sedan with all the options and aftermarket upgrades over a ready-made, high-performance exotic like a Porsche or a Lamborghini, even if I could afford one. I've always admired the slightly boxier lines of Lamborghinis (as opposed to the curvier Ferraris). Though, I've never been a huge fan of Porches, I admire the performance, but never quite got with its curvy, bug-like form.

I was considering the Porsche Taycan full-electric for a hot-minute as my new commuter, the Taycan being the prettiest Porche ever scuplted in my opinion. But a bit too large and the dual-motor version is hideously expensive. I've always loved Lotus' bodies, which would be at the top of my list if they weren't so continually underwhelming in the torque department. Similarly, also always loved the old-school Acura NSXs, but the new ones look far too Accord-ey for my tastes. Plus, like the Lotus, the NSX lacks the low-end grunt I crave.

1. Porsche GT3 RS.
2. Lamborghini Hurican.
3. Lotus Emira.
4. Acura NSX.

[Edit: Totally forgot to mention my number one dream car: 2006 Ford GT. But at their insanely inflated prices it's completely unthinkable.]

Actually, since the Lotus is incredibly lightweight, its "modest" torque-specs (317 lb.ft.) may in fact be pretty mind-blowing. And, unlike the other contenders, the Lotus doesn't have a half-million dollar price tag. In fact, it's not that much more (or even about the same) as other top-of-the-line American super-cars.

American muscle: I got really excited when Dodge introduced their modern muscle car line-up (especially the Challenger), but both are simply far too commonly seen on the road, and the Charger in particular, far too ugly. Despite this, I seriously considered a Charger for quite some time before I bought my SHO. The Charger really fit the bill: Insane torque-specs, a lauded muscle-car heritage, four-door sedan. As a former Marauder owner, I love the concept of a powerful four-door sedan, and as a result I always seem to end up buying civilian versions of Ford's latest cop cars. But no matter how you look at it, the Charger's body work simply looks bloated and just plain unattractive no matter how hard I tried to convince myself otherwise.

All that said, I'll probably never end up with any of the above. I had my eye on a 2024 Mustang Dark Horse, until I realized all orders for this limited-edition model had already been closed for a month. Will probably end up with just a Mustang GT—a car I've been wanting since the early Fox bodies.

I've been renting Mustang GT convertibles on every vacation I've taken to Hawaii for almost two decades and the car just seems to get better and better. Even a bone-stock GT is pretty impressive and the stock exhaust sounds amazing right out of the gate. So, the SHO will continue on its modest upgrade-path, while the GT will be in my sights for the foreseeable future. I just want to make damned sure to grab one of the last full-blown gas muscle cars before all the manufacturers switch over to hybrid gas-electrics.
 
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Simple for me to say - Lamborghini Hurican

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Ever since I watched Paul Walker in that orange Supra as a teenager, I've wanted a MKIV with a fully built/modded 2JZ-GTE. I'm more of a realist and I've never drooled over hyper cars since they're pretty far out of reach. Although that Supra now costs what some hyper cars do, I'd say it's at the top of my most wanted list.

Having owned a '07 GT Vert C/S Mustang w/ Roush/aftermarket body kit and Roush supercharger, I still kick myself for ever selling it. Realistically, I'll own another Mustang in my lifetime. I recently had to get a rental for work and somehow ended up with a free upgrade to a '21 Vert Mustang. Dropping the top and owning the road brought back some great memories. The only downside was the 4 cylinder Ecoboost which surprisingly could be made to be more aggressive than I thought. Puting the 10 speed in manual and switching to track mode, I was able to chirp 2nd and 3rd in it and I did as often as possible, cause ya know, rental.

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If money is not a problem, my dream car is the koenigsegg agera.

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Funny you mention Paul Walker since he's probably the number one reason I'll never buy a GT3—I'd likely die in that thing.
 

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80s Countach has always been my dream car. Just need to get one amd get a better engine in it.
 

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2024 Lotus Emira first edition:

• 3.5L supercharged Toyota V6.
• 400HP RWD.
• 317 pound-feet torque.
• Above specs for six-speed manual (six-speed auto also available).
• Curb weight: 3,097 lbs.
• 0 to 100 km/h (62mph): 4.3 sec.
• 0 to 100 mph: 17.2 sec. (estimated).
• 1/4-mile: 13.1 sec. (mph unknown).
• Top speed: ~180mph.
• MSRP: $93,900.

As you can see, not the fastest thing on the block, but this thing stays glued around corners, boasting a >1.0G skidpad (pushing toward an incredible 1.6Gs). Again, the Lotus is a little light in the torque department, but also sports a very lightweight aluminum-chassis. About six-grand shy of a $100K, the car is one of the most affordable exotics on the market. Although it suffers the same fate as the Corvette with little to no trunk-space, making extended road-trips somewhat challenging, if not a total deal-breaker. But with Hellcats starting at $81,595, and limited-edition Mustangs topping out a just shy of $80K ($79,915), the Emira doesn't seem that much of a stretch (in comparison, the humble Mustang GT seems like a bargain at "just" $50K).

And just like the Hellcat, this is to be Lotus' last gasoline-powered car. I'm not sure how good British carmakers are at making reliable vehicles these days, but at least the Emira (now in its junior-year of production) updates their gas-powered flagship with such "modern" conveniences as Apple CarPlay and USB-ports. Plus, Lotus boasts a long history in Formula 1, along with being the pioneer in mid-engine sports cars, so they should be pretty good at making a decent automobile. Still . . .

Looked at a few more images . . . sure, the racing version looks super bad-ass (as they always do), but the street-versions . . . hmmm. A bit too curvy, I think:

Emira2
 
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I've always said, I would prefer an American sedan with all the options and aftermarket upgrades over a ready-made, high-performance exotic like a Porsche or a Lamborghini, even if I could afford one . . .

Okay, so back to my original plan . . . say I dump $10K in power-adders into my SHO. If I can get the torque up to 450+ pound-feet on 91-octane somehow, and while I can upgrade the turbos, intercooler, torque-converter, et.al., it seems I cannot upgrade the PTU/RTU—kind of the essential power-train upgrade if everything else is "faster." That is the weak link in the chain, literally. If I didn't have such an aversion to Corvettes (spurring images in my mind of a gold-chain wearing, hairy-chested Burt Reynolds kinda guy who drives one), I would've pre-ordered one the first year the refreshed, modern Z06 debuted. So I guess I'm back to the Mustang GT . . .
 
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Okay, so back to my original plan . . . say I dump $10K in power-adders into my SHO. If I can get the torque up to 450+ pound-feet on 91-octane somehow, and while I can upgrade the turbos, intercooler, torque-converter, et.al., it seems I cannot upgrade the PTU/RTU—kind of the essential power-train upgrade if everything else is "faster." That is the weak link in the chain, literally. If I didn't have such an aversion to Corvettes (spurring images in my mind of a gold-chain wearing, hairy-chested Burt Reynolds kinda guy who drives one), I would've pre-ordered one the first year the refreshed, modern Z06 debuted. So I guess I'm back to the Mustang GT . . .
I still ask - are you drag racing at a track? Or just want the understated power of a sleeper? See a tweaked SHO can eat mustangs. If you drive a sports car - you are assumed as driving a "fast" car. Making losing even more embarrassing.
 

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Mustang GT + supercharger.... It's pretty hard to beat the power per dollar.

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Agreed. But again, I live in Cali. I don't think anyone makes a CARB-certified aftermarket supercharger for the GT. The only way I'll own a supercharged Mustang is with a Shelby, for which I would either have to buy used or wait until 2025 for the promised 2026 GT500. However, a GT500 is a pipe dream—used 2022s are selling for ~$100K. Also, no Mach 1 for 2024 (replaced by the Dark Horse, which is now unobtanium).
 
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Strictly street. Understated power of a sleeper—0-30MPH is my jam.
0-30 a SHO takes almost everything on the streets with nothing more than a chirp of the tires. I love the reactions at the 2nd red light after you've embarrassed someone at the first one.

Not long ago, I had a guy in a convertible Corvette pull up blaring a local radio station. I happened to be on the same one so I turned mine up (with the sub). I got his attention as he turned down to hear mine. When the light turned green, he did a modest pull of which I stayed about a quarter car length in front of him. I could hear him downshift so I floored it and walked away. His response at the next light was "What is that??"

To me, this car is the "always ready" car. Need to take a customer to lunch? No problem. Need to take the kids/friends to a game? No problem. Need to zip through traffic? No problem. Want to have a little fun? She's ready.

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Yeah, I absolutely love the idea of the SHO as a sleeper—I just have no idea how to make the car go like that (at least on 91-octane). I will be very interested to know what gains are possible with a 91-octane tune—an SCT-tune is my next "upgrade." I don't know what the 60' times are for the current GT, but the Mustang five-point-oh I just rented in Hawaii seemed very quick off the line. But I'm not interested in timeslips—I want to feel and hear the car go—I want to lose traction on take-off, and chirp though second and third.
 
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Yeah, I absolutely love the idea of the SHO as a sleeper—I just have no idea how to make the car go like that.
All I have are basic adders...3 bar MAP, CAI, 1 degree cooler spark plugs, JLT catch can, and a 93 octane tune from Unleashed. I did upgrade the torque converter but that wasn't by choice. The old one gave out. I drive mine daily.

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Yes, I plan all of that (except for the CAI), but I'm sure that extra two-points of octane makes a notable difference. The SCT guys had to back off my timing in my Marauder three times it knocked so easily, likely putting it back nearly to stock. I put a high-stall torque-converter in my Marauder, and I really felt that upgrade. Did you feel yours?
 

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Yes, I plan all of that, but I'm sure that extra two-points of octane makes a noticeable difference. I put a high-performance torque-converter in my Marauder, and I really felt that upgrade. Did you feel yours?
Honestly I couldn't tell. I lost a lot of power as the old one gave out. I started with adders in the trans fluid which would temporarily fixed the issue until I finally had it replaced. So once I replaced it, it's hard to say if I have more power now than before.

The biggest boost for me was all the other adders, which I did at the same time (about 4 or 5 years ago). After the 3 bar MAP and tune it's making about 19 PSI.

I did all of the bolt ons at home. I plugged in the tuner, checked max PSI to be around 11 or 12, bolted it all on, flashed the tune, and the difference was substantial.

Oh yea, I also have a colder thermostat. I was feeling lazy so I let my mechanic pop that in.

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Sticking to contemporary cars (I've a long list of classics I'd love) I'd daily an Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio with a GT350 (S550) for weekends, if I had $150k to spend on unnecessary cars (exotics have never appealed to me really; the newer ones at least). As it is I daily a '22 CX-9 (three rows for the kids) and have two old Alfa Spiders ('74 & '92), two '96 SHOs (45K and 74k miles), and a '98 SVTC (54k miles) for the collector in me.
 

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