Clutch self-adjuster not working

[92ShoOff]

Okay, I have done a search on this forum and read through several of the results and did not find what I was looking for exactly.

Like many others, my clutch self-adjuster has been out of commission for some time. I checked it for the first time today. I lifted the clutch pedal upward, rotated the blue gear, let go of the clutch the gear did not stay in place.

So what is it exactly that I need to replace to fix this? I'm having a complete clutch job on this car and I'll be ordering the ALL of the parts between tonight and tomorrow afternoon. If anyone could give me a part # and/or description of the part(s) I need I would appreciate it.

Now that I think about it, is it likely that maybe I have a bad throw-out bearing and have a good adjuster?? I guess there's no way to really find out until I get the clutch job done next week, is there? We're assuming that the straps on my pressure plate are shot now, so I'm sure the TOB is no good either. I just wish something would go right with this car for once!

Thanks guys!

 

[woody32]

a possible solution (i wouldn't believe this unless i had seen it myself)

i had my white '91 for almost a year and had a really bad problem with the car not letting me get it into the gears w/o a hard shoving,or if i wanted to get into reverse (gasp.......oh not not reverse.....) i actually had to turn the car off,put it into reverse,then resatrt thge car to go....


a friend of mine's solution ??????


get into the car,w/o it running,push the clutch to the floor,and just slip your foot off of it to the side.

if you are doing this procedure correctly,when you push in the clutch and hold it to the floor,then release it,your foot will slip right off of the clutch pedal and onto the carpeting of the floor/firewall area. ( i.e. the clutch pedal will fly by your foot when released back to it's fully out position)

this truly does work if you are having a doubt as to if it might be an engaging/disengaging clutch issue.
also, i did try the "pull up on the clutch pedal trick" and i didn't get that to work at all for me.

anyway, there is my .02 cents
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white '91 mtx stock for a lil bit longer...
gold 91 stock for a lil bit as well....

 

[92ShoOff]

Okay I understand completely what you are saying about letting your foot slip off the clutch, but when doing this how do you know if it is or isn't a engaging/disengaging issue exactly? And what exactly do you mean by a clutch disengaging/engaging issue? Are you referring to my adjustment issue, or my issue of having a hard time getting the car in gear? Sorry, I just have so many issues with this car going on at once that I'm not sure which one you're talking about. Lol.

Thanks for your help and input though! Anything is a help to me at this point.

 

[pjtoledo]

i had my white '91 for almost a year and had a really bad problem with the car not letting me get it into the gears w/o a hard shoving,or if i wanted to get into reverse (gasp.......oh not not reverse.....) i actually had to turn the car off,put it into reverse,then resatrt thge car to go....


a friend of mine's solution ??????


get into the car,w/o it running,push the clutch to the floor,and just slip your foot off of it to the side.

if you are doing this procedure correctly,when you push in the clutch and hold it to the floor,then release it,your foot will slip right off of the clutch pedal and onto the carpeting of the floor/firewall area. ( i.e. the clutch pedal will fly by your foot when released back to it's fully out position)

this truly does work if you are having a doubt as to if it might be an engaging/disengaging clutch issue.
also, i did try the "pull up on the clutch pedal trick" and i didn't get that to work at all for me.

anyway, there is my .02 cents
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white '91 mtx stock for a lil bit longer...
gold 91 stock for a lil bit as well....

Interesting. Since a lot of clutch problems are at least partially due to the throw out bearing binding on the input shaft, letting the pressure plate slam it back may scrape some of the gunk out of the way. Or, it may just be that as the pedal is slammed up it disengages the pawl and quadrant which allows the pressure plate to pull the cable back.

The normal adjustment method, pulling the pedal works like this:
As the pedal is pulled up it rotates the quadrant. Riding on the quadrant is a "pawl",,the two have "sawteeth" that keep them together. As the quadrant nears the end of it's rotation it pushes the pawl against a small ramp that lifts the pawl away from the quadrant. While the locking teeth are separated, any tension the pressure plate may be exerting on the throwout bearing will pull the cable back. Since the end of the cable is anchored in the quadrant, it gets pulled back too. When the pedal is released the pawl drops back onto the quadrant,,into a different set of teeth if any adjustment was really accomplished.

Perhaps slamming the pedal moves the parts so fast that slop in the various bushings and parts is overcome???

And like he said,,,do this with the engine off. If it's running, "side-stepping" the clutch is guaranteed to break parts.

And those folks, are my .02 cents.


Perry