Clutch cable bushing

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Dannyboy puckett

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I have a 95 mtx sho.my bushing is messed up,but I'd like to see what one looks like that is in good condition.Does anyone have a picture or image of what a good clutch cable bushing looks like on car,with clutch cable installed.the one on Bell housing that goes to clutch fork. Thanks guys. I'm hoping the bushing is my problem.Screenshot 20220613 135457
 

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Don't have a photo but I've bought one from SHOsource.com. It's a one piece design, I think thermoplastic or something. Can't say it felt much different even though my old one was cracked into two. What is the actual problem it's giving you?
 

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Don't have a photo but I've bought one from SHOsource.com. It's a one piece design, I think thermoplastic or something. Can't say it felt much different even though my old one was cracked into two. What is the actual problem it's giving you?
Mine is cracked in two also. I heard a pop when I shifted into second under floorboard driver it sounded like.now won't go into gear at all.people said it's probably clutch fingers,but I don't know.im trying to start cheap first.the bushing is flexing when I push pedal down. Also my shifter is hard to move over from neutral/middle to go over toward fifth or reverse.i have to put some force into it to move shifter over and it sounds like the whole shifter box thing is moving under car,like it's hitting trans tunnel
 

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Oof. Sounds like you got a problem either in the shifter or the trans. even without a clutch you should be able to move between all 3 neutral positions without a problem. Crawl under the car and see if the sifter mech is loose. While you're under there check the rods between it and the trans. One rod is just a stabilizer, and it has rubber bushings that are known to go bad. You can also get them from SHOsource.

As for the clutch cable have someone see if the clutch fork lever (the parts the end of the cable is on) and see if its still moving. As a temp fix you can also lift the pedal to work the self adjuster but I'd still get a new bushing. Not ruling out the clutch itself but might as well check the cheap stuff. I had a ceramic clutch that fused itself the the pressure plate last summer.
 

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Oof. Sounds like you got a problem either in the shifter or the trans. even without a clutch you should be able to move between all 3 neutral positions without a problem. Crawl under the car and see if the sifter mech is loose. While you're under there check the rods between it and the trans. One rod is just a stabilizer, and it has rubber bushings that are known to go bad. You can also get them from SHOsource.

As for the clutch cable have someone see if the clutch fork lever (the parts the end of the cable is on) and see if its still moving. As a temp fix you can also lift the pedal to work the self adjuster but I'd still get a new bushing. Not ruling out the clutch itself but might as well check the cheap stuff. I had a ceramic clutch that fused itself the the pressure plate last summer.
I replaced the shifter rod clevis thing with sho source parts last year.thats fine. The clutch cable is attached to fork and it works like it should.i think the bushing is messed up to where the cable isn't fully pulling the clutch fork all the way. As far as the bushing goes on shifter under car,the flat looking one for shifter,it's crumbled also.
 

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You mean there's another flat one under the shift itself?
I'd have to get pictures of what I'm talking about.my car is broke down at my sister's house though. The rod shifter goes into a box where the shifter from inside of car goes into the box with rod shifter under car.that box has two bolts that hold it up( if I remember correctly) and there's some kind of bushing that goes between the bolts.last time I took it off to fix a spinning shifter ****,the bushing was like wax gel and crumbling.now there's no material in-between it at all. Look at this pic. It's the rectangle piece on right of pic behind shifter. Is there a fix for that piece?
 

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I'd have to get pictures of what I'm talking about.my car is broke down at my sister's house though. The rod shifter goes into a box where the shifter from inside of car goes into the box with rod shifter under car.that box has two bolts that hold it up( if I remember correctly) and there's some kind of bushing that goes between the bolts.last time I took it off to fix a spinning shifter ****,the bushing was like wax gel and crumbling.now there's no material in-between it at all. Look at this pic. It's the rectangle piece on right of pic behind shifter. Is there a fix for that piece?
Pic of piece I'm talking about.the bushing in between this piece on left with two nuts on bottom.mine has crumbled.would that cause my shifter to have issues?
 

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First off, I don't think that the round cable bushing can be the problem. The cable sheath is sitting where it's supposed to, and plays no part when you press the pedal which pulls the cable. The flexing you see is going to make virtually no difference.

I have just dealt with a broken square bushing at the rear of a shifter which has the two studs holding the shifter on to the car. That is to allow variations in distance from the front end attached to the transmission and the rear end attached to the car. The distance can alter slightly from the transmission moving a little because of flex in the engine subframe bushings. Again, it can't be the problem, as long as the nuts on the rear studs are holding the back of the shifter securely to the car.

So, how far off the floor is the pedal when the clutch just starts to engage? You can check by: parking brake *******, hood open, engage first, raise the revs slightly, then slowly lifting your foot off the pedal until the front of the engine starts to go up. If it's very close to the floor, the clutch may not be disengaging all the way. This may be what that loud pop you heard was: the TOB punching through the end of the clutch fingers. If so, this may help:


Do you hear a grinding noise when you depress the clutch pedal? Another indication of the aforementioned.

However, none of that explains why you have difficulty moving the stick left and right. That has to be a problem with the shifter or the mechanism inside the transmission.
 
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First off, I don't think that the round cable bushing can be the problem. The cable sheath is sitting where it's supposed to, and plays no part when you press the pedal which pulls the cable. The flexing you see is going to make virtually no difference.

I have just dealt with a broken square bushing at the rear of a shifter which has the two studs holding the shifter on to the car. That is to allow variations in distance from the front end attached to the transmission and the rear end attached to the car. The distance can alter slightly from the transmission moving a little because of flex in the engine subframe bushings. Again, it can't be the problem, as long as the nuts on the rear studs are holding the back of the shifter securely to the car.

So, how far off the floor is the pedal when the clutch just starts to engage? You can check by: parking brake *******, hood open, engage first, raise the revs slightly, then slowly lifting your foot off the pedal until the front of the engine starts to go up. If it's very close to the floor, the clutch may not be disengaging all the way. This may be what that loud pop you heard was: the TOB punching through the end of the clutch fingers. If so, this may help:


Do you hear a grinding noise when you depress the clutch pedal? Another indication of the aforementioned.

However, none of that explains why you have difficulty moving the stick left and right. That has to be a problem with the shifter or the mechanism inside the transmission.
The pedal is pretty much all the way at top when it engages.so if none of the other bushings seem to be the problem,which you described,like quite a few others have mentioned before,it's clutch time. Thank you so much.i greatly appreciate your time and knowledge very much.
 

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