Charge Indicator Light help

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ShelbyDoug

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I have a not charging battery indicator light on my 92 SHO. The alternator is definitely charging and the battery definitely is good. All indications are that there is a circuit board failure and the two parts that come up are both obsolete.

Has anyone been through this and determined what the best solution is? I thought only GM's did this kind of crap?

You can email me directly at [email protected] if that helps thanks.
 

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I think the ECU is the culprit here. I believe the ECU constantly monitors voltage - like you mentioned - if the contacts inside the ecu have failed (the ones that are supplied with voltage) it could trigger your charge light. If you have a spare ECU laying around i'd switch it out and see if it fixes it. Otherwise there are usually quite a few available in the for sale section for pretty cheap prices - especially the h3z model (if you have an auto)
 

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I have a not charging battery indicator light on my 92 SHO. The alternator is definitely charging and the battery definitely is good. All indications are that there is a circuit board failure and the two parts that come up are both obsolete.

Has anyone been through this and determined what the best solution is? I thought only GM's did this kind of crap?

You can email me directly at [email protected] if that helps thanks.

Many people tested their alts and thought it was good (light on)

Most of the time (a good 90%) when the batt light comes up , you need an alternator, Simple as that.
 
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If im not mistaken the light will come on when the alternator is putting out too much voltage as well.It is a common issue for voltage regulators to fail in alternators.
This can cause all sorts of issues like melted wires and fried batteries.

In short,have your alternator checked at a parts store.
 

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I think the ECU is the culprit here. I believe the ECU constantly monitors voltage - like you mentioned - if the contacts inside the ecu have failed (the ones that are supplied with voltage) it could trigger your charge light. If you have a spare ECU laying around i'd switch it out and see if it fixes it. Otherwise there are usually quite a few available in the for sale section for pretty cheap prices - especially the h3z model (if you have an auto)

Good thinking, but wrong. The battery light in the SHO is incredibly simple. There is no circuitry whatsoever involved; it is a simple opposing ground circuit. There is a wire that goes from the battery positive terminal to one leg of the light, and a wire that goes from the alternator to the other leg of the light (the plug on the alt with two wires on it - one wire goes to POS to tell the alternator how much to charge, the other goes to the idiot light). If everything is working right, the voltage at the POS terminal and the voltage being output by the alternator will be equal, thus allowing no voltage flow across that light. If either one is higher or lower than the other, that will allow voltage to flow, making the light turn on. If it is a small imbalance, the light will be dim. If it is a large imbalance, the light will be bright.

This means either the battery can be dying (not accepting alt charge and producing a lower voltage) or, very rarely, producing more voltage than the alternator can handle. This almost never happens. Also, if the alternator isn't putting out as much voltage as the battery (<~12v), the light will turn on. If the alternator is putting out more voltage than the battery can handle (>~15v), the light will turn on.

Basically, the light turning on means either your battery is ***** or your alternator is *****. Or, the wiring going to the idiot light is *****. It does happen sometimes. I saw the wire from the alt plug short out to ground once, creating a bright-ass light. Freaked the owner out pretty good. Anyway, if the battery is fine (and this is easy to check with a load meter), that means the alternator is either not putting out enough voltage, or putting out too much. You need to take it to an AAP or AZ and get the charging system tested. It's free and pretty quick, if the tech knows what they're doing.

If im not mistaken the light will come on when the alternator is putting out too much voltage as well.It is a common issue for voltage regulators to fail in alternators.
This can cause all sorts of issues like melted wires and fried batteries.

In short,have your alternator checked at a parts store.

This.
 

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Thank you for that great info Hawkeye...Saw the post sitting there for awhile and noone had answered - so gave it my best attempt.
 

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Do not test the alternator @ a parts store unless they have a machine to come out and tests it under both 1) idle and 2) load conditions... if you don't test it like this then your test is worthless
 

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x2 on what he just said.... I've seen mine test ok on a bench, and like crap in the car.... might be because I have UDP's tho.. but definately better to load test it on the car.
 

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Both the bench testers and the mobile cart testers are highly dependent on the operator knowing what in the flying f*** they are doing. Unfortunately, more than 50% of the time they do not, or they just don't care. Hooking the ammeter up to the negative side, selecting the wrong number of cylinders (!), etc. You wouldn't believe how easy it is to make a bad alternator look good, and vice versa. This is why I want to work at an AAP, so at least one person knows what the f*** they're doing.
 

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