ceramic throwout bearing question?

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it put in a ceramic one when i put in the southbend clutch&8lb fywheel.it makes a horrible rattle.i heard this normal.but,why does it do this?&when is it supposed to make this rattle noise.i put 6k on it already& do not wanna break anything.
 

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+1 Mine has rattled since new. Sometimes it'll go away for a bit, sometimes it doesn't. It sounds to me like the bearing gets slightly out of balance sometimes. Regardless of the cause, I haven't noticed and ill effects.
 

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See, this is weird. Mine has never rattled, and is nice and quiet, put over 25k on it since install. Getting ready to buy a 2nd one for my other SHO, hopefully its not as "chatty" as yours is. :)
 

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Mine only gets chatty on cold mornings.

In any case, this ceramic TOB is much quieter than my previous (stock) TOB. When I did my clutch this time I also replaced the cable, cable-to-trans bushing and shift forks. Maybe having everything smooth allows the TOB to back off of the pressure plate easier, so I'm getting less chatter.
 

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Chatty in cold weather as well, and only really notice it when the sound is reverberating off the building at any drive through place. Other than that I don't notice mine.
 

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I can hear it, and feel it sometimes too. I need to check it next time the trans is out.
 

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Just to be clear.....Are we talking about noise when your pedal is depressed, or noise when it is idleing in neutral?
 

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Everyone I have put in make some sort of noise.

I can usually make most of the noise go away if I let the clutch pedal out slowly, into neutral.
 

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Im putting one in soon as my engine build is done, with a stage 2 southbend. I'm probably going to hear rattle, long as it works for a very long time, don't care. But if some reason its quiet then that may scare me even more!! lol
 

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I use to hear a rattle, until I put the blower on. It's normal when you have a tramssion that doesn't utilize a pilot bearing.
 

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As these cars age, the clutch fork tips wear, the clutch fork bushings wear, the cables stretch, the clutch cable bushing at the trans deteriorates, and the clutch pedal auto adjusters frequenty stop working.

Add to this the stamped steel races in the Rev B bearing, whether ceramic or factory produced, can vary in their axial stackup tolerance because they are stamped, not ground (and am sure the remaining stamping tool is getting pretty worn out by now)..

So, there are 6 or 7 different things that affect the axial position of the bearing in relation to the pressure plate fingers. These clutches were designed to have the TOB constantly turning, in other words constantly in contact with the pressure plate fingers. If there is too much clearance in any part of the system the TOB will not make good contact with the pressure plate fingers. With the intentional radial clearance built into the bearing, it can then "orbit" and rattle that way. Or it can rattle as intermittant contact is made between the inner race and the fingers, assuming one or more things that affect the stack are allowing for addtional clearance.

Finally, ceramic does not have the same dampening characteristics as steel, so the bearings will tend to be a bit noisier.

If lightly pressing on the clutch peddal makes the rattling go away, check the cable bushings at both ends, try to manually adjust (there is a very good post on here somewhere on how to do this), if that fails replace the clutch cable.

If you are doing a clutch, consider the filled nylon fork bushings from SHOnut, or replace with factory Ford, check the clutch fork for wear vs. service limit in the manual, etc.
 
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