car running cold!

[_JR_]

...you need to replace your thermostat too. It will get 'warm', but not operating temperature hot. It isn't good for your motor, or esp your cats.

Doug

Today was the first time i saw the temp gauge move. It was after i had two new mufflers installed. I was driving back to the dealership and the temp gauge went up above the blue section...But i will have to look into that. I'll be searching through old posts for any how-to t-stat replacement guides.


What would be the best t-stat to put in? Someone above said use the 190 and someone else said the oem 195 is better. What are the pro's and con's of the two?

 

[rubydist]

T-stat change is one of the easiest maintenance items to do. If you know the difference between a box end wrench, a screwdriver, and a pliers, you can do this.

You should just buy a 'standard' thermostat. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a 190 and a 195 unit.

 

[SHOtimer]

Today was the first time i saw the temp gauge move. It was after i had two new mufflers installed. I was driving back to the dealership and the temp gauge went up above the blue section...But i will have to look into that. I'll be searching through old posts for any how-to t-stat replacement guides.


What would be the best t-stat to put in? Someone above said use the 190 and someone else said the oem 195 is better. What are the pro's and con's of the two?

It is very easy, you just have to be very gentle with the studs. The upper radiator hose feeds into the thermostat housing. You will see two studs/bolts holding it on. Remove the bolts and gently remove the housing & thermostat. Replace it. Reinstall the housing gently - tighten the bolts *gently* and reconnect the hose/refill the motor with coolant. You're done.

I have always used Motorcraft thermostats....they work very well and are designed specifically for this motor.

Doug

 

[randy'sho]

just did mine tonight! easy job.....will see if it works properly when driving tomorrow!

 

[_JR_]

that sounds easy enough for me to do!

I hope

 

[frosho]

Just be sure to get one with a jiggle valve. I think there are two different temps available, I'd go with the higher one.

 

[SHODWN]

I am thinking about what I am saying, my first draft of this post was a touch 'douchey' (if that's even a word...lol) my second draft started out with the logic escapes me as well but now that i'm thinking about it, i have this:

the coolant isn't sitting in the radiator, its FLOWING through the radiator. constantly, thanks to the water pump. so it doesn't have time to sit in the radiator like it would with a functioning closed t-stat.

i know i'm not crazy, my wife's car had a broken thermostat with it stuck open and she didn't tell me about it for 2 weeks. she just drove it with the windows down and the heater on because she thought i'd get mad her car was broken (woman logic... now that is tricky...)the car would stay cool when she was moving, but she would drive home on the parking lot known as the I 10 from down town to my place here in Ahwatukee off warner rd, stop and go the whole way and the car would overheat from not moving even with the fan full blast. this caused the car to crack the head, not 5 weeks after i replaced the head when it broke a timing belt.

its the opposite problem randysho is having if you think about it, just switch the word cold for hot, and switch the thinking of having the coolant sitting in the engine to heat up, with sitting in the radiator to cool down.

You are correct! Dont worry about Bettlejuice. He Cant Understand Normal Thinking.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Negative. For the logical thinkers with a little bit of common sense... http://www.samarins.com/glossary/thermostat.html

 

[SHODWN]

Negative. For the logical thinkers with a little bit of common sense... http://www.samarins.com/glossary/thermostat.html

Not even going to click the link, Because- its on the internet so it must be true.

 

[SHODWN]

No thermostat allows the fluid to run constant. In cold weather such as -30, this fluid does not have the ability to warm properly and usually ice build up will become a hindrance to the proper circulation of the fluid thus causing over-heating. Also, improper water to glycol antifreeze ratio can speed up this process. Too much glycol will congeal quickly adding to the blockage and too much water will dissipate quicker and/or freeze quicker.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Not even going to click the link, Because- its on the internet so it must be true.

Yet, here we are and you had to start with name-calling. How old are you?

No thermostat allows the fluid to run constant. In cold weather such as -30, this fluid does not have the ability to warm properly and usually ice build up will become a hindrance to the proper circulation of the fluid thus causing over-heating. Also, improper water to glycol antifreeze ratio can speed up this process. Too much glycol will congeal quickly adding to the blockage and too much water will dissipate quicker and/or freeze quicker.

A thermostat stuck in the open position will still have enough resistance to allow heat transfer to the coolant and provided the radiator has air flow, it will be able to cool it.

An engine with no thermostat could have issues with heat transfer from the engine to the coolant, but a decent radiator should still be able to shed heat. Can it cause the engine to overheat, possibly, but not always. I have seen a few cars in my lifetime run without a thermostat and overheating was never the problem.

 

[SHODWN]

Running without/open Tstat in AZ would keep the car cool. A stuck closed Tstat in AZ would overheat a motor quickly.

Make up your mind? You related to Obama or Pelossi?

 

[SHOZ123]

Just be sure to get one with a jiggle valve. I think there are two different temps available, I'd go with the higher one.

I don't think the juggle valves are needed. I used a plain old cheap Stant t-stat with no problems. What you do need is a cooling system that has no leaks, when hot or cold. The biggest problem for the Taurus was the radiator that would leak when cold. This allows air to stay in the system giving you unreliable cooling.

If the system looses vacuum when cooling down it will never work as it is suppose to.

 

[SHODWN]

I don't think the juggle valves are needed. I used a plain old cheap Stant t-stat with no problems. What you do need is a cooling system that has no leaks, when hot or cold. The biggest problem for the Taurus was the radiator that would leak when cold. This allows air to stay in the system giving you unreliable cooling.

If the system looses vacuum when cooling down it will never work as it is suppose to.

Yup... I also drill holes in the thremostat too.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Make up your mind? You related to Obama or Pelossi?

Please don't turn this into the last thread. Sersiously, grow up.

Also, please read the whole post, and not what you think you can pick apart.

 

[SHODWN]

I like you little thing under your name.. I like seeing my name everywhere! thaks for that.:wave:

Your wrong, admit it and move on. Its very simple.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I am not completely wrong. Please re-read my last post. Please stop trying to act superior ('cause you're far from it) as I am trying not to clutter another thread to become useless.

It is far more simple for you to keep to yourself.

 

[SHODWN]

Why? affraid I might follow you around all day to point out your mistakes? Im superior to no one, just way fuvking smarter than you.

I am proud of you though! you did admit you were "not completely" wrong just partly wrong.

 

[SHOmethewayhome]

randy,
i'd like to appologize for what i may/may not have started.

thanks kirk, yamahaSHO, plz remove your thermostat in anthem next time you drive down here in the summer, and let me know how it works out for you if you get stuck in traffic.

 

[yamahaSHO]

One doesn't know that I grew up in AZ and purchased my SHO there.