Can a auto tranny just give out with no warning?

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Because I think it just happened today. I'm praying the tranny just overheated and needs some time to cool down because I did make two quick pulls to show my buddy how quick it was. The tranny up till this point has been fine, but after the runs, the next time i started the car, it pops out of every gear if you give it much gas. What chances do I have that it just overheated?
 

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:laugh_ti: oh man, welcome to the crappy world of blown differentials. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, dude, but your tranny went shoBOOM. You probably peeled out, didn't you? That is the worst thing you can do to these transmissions. The pin that holds the differential (which is open) together is notoriously weak. After so many burnouts, or for no reason at all, the pin will break. Once the pin breaks, you have about 10 miles before the differential disintegrates. Sometimes, it will stay in the transmission casing. Most of the time, it will violently and with great energy depart the car.

When my 94 ATX went shoBOOM it cost me $3000 for a new one. I hope you fare better.
 

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chirped tires once on accident so i didn't really "peel out." that was the toughtest i pushed the car, 2nd run was pretty mediocre. i pray that this didn't happen to my car! would it be covered under warranty if the tranny is still covered?
 

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It could be as simple as a broken motor mount. When you take off, if the engine moves from a broken mount and the shifter dosent...pop...out of gear.

Edit: Warranty? no.
 

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93rev2sev said:
It could be as simple as a broken motor mount. When you take off, if the engine moves from a broken mount and the shifter dosent...pop...out of gear.

Edit: Warranty? no.

how about low tranny fluid? i actually haven't checked the fluid level since i purchased the car around 6 months ago. i was actually planning to sell the car this weekend so this couldn't have came at a worse time!

basically to say exactly what happenened. i took a buddy for a spin in the car, made 2 pulls, chirped tires for split second and let off, then drove him back to his house. i shut the car off for a bit and went in to check some stuff and then when i came back out, i started the car and drove off fine. about 2 miles down the road i hit a stop light. i went to turn left and the car made a weird sound and the rpms went up but the car wouldn't actually accellerate much. so i just drove as far as i could, and finally pulled off to the side of the road. if the car popped out of gear, i would have to stop and shut off the engine, restart it and put it into gear for it to grab. it would grab for a short while or if i accelled to much it would just pop out of gear and i would have to shut off the engine again. i tried all gears... same thing.
 

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i think so. i purchased the car about 6 months ago and the guy said the tranny was replaced and should still be under warranty. not sure if i'm lucky enough thouhg, it probably expired by now or is no good here in nebraska (it was changed in colorado).
 

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hawkeye18 said:
:laugh_ti: oh man, welcome to the crappy world of blown differentials. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, dude, but your tranny went shoBOOM. You probably peeled out, didn't you? That is the worst thing you can do to these transmissions. The pin that holds the differential (which is open) together is notoriously weak. After so many burnouts, or for no reason at all, the pin will break. Once the pin breaks, you have about 10 miles before the differential disintegrates. Sometimes, it will stay in the transmission casing. Most of the time, it will violently and with great energy depart the car.

When my 94 ATX went shoBOOM it cost me $3000 for a new one. I hope you fare better.

Not with an ATX.

-Sam
 

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SHOspazz92 said:
Not with an ATX.

-Sam


i'm picking up the car tonight around 7:30pm. Hopefully the tranny just needed time to cool down otherwise i'm in BIG trouble and the car will go up for sale, obviously cheap.
 

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somedude_001 said:
don't tell mention that the car changed owners. if they ask just say you moved out of state.

i don't have the tranny repair paper next to me so i'm not sure if I can use it in this state. if it was done at a small repair shop, i'm kinda in trouble, otherwise i might be able to have the tranny fixed here in town if it was done at a larger shop.
 

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SHOspazz92 said:
Not with an ATX.

-Sam


actually you are wrong if you are talking about ATX diffs blowing. they are not as common because the other internals never make it far enough to the point where the diff is the weakest part in the ATX...

i 'donated' my toasted tranny to another SHO enthusiast who pulled it apart to start a rebuild to find what went wrong with it. the diff pin was working its way out...grinding away at the case, unleashing small flecks of aluminum case which we figure clogged the fluid pump, and then overheated the trans due to no fluid circulation. sound about right?

P.S. 19sho93, what you describe is just about what happened with mine (sometimes went, and then just slipped out of gear)... so good luck to you... check your fluid level to start, and see if it is a nice clean red, or it is looking dirty brown or even black.
 

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ohfosho said:
actually you are wrong if you are talking about ATX diffs blowing. they are not as common because the other internals never make it far enough to the point where the diff is the weakest part in the ATX...

i 'donated' my toasted tranny to another SHO enthusiast who pulled it apart to start a rebuild to find what went wrong with it. the diff pin was working its way out...grinding away at the case, unleashing small flecks of aluminum case which we figure clogged the fluid pump, and then overheated the trans due to no fluid circulation. sound about right?

P.S. 19sho93, what you describe is just about what happened with mine (sometimes went, and then just slipped out of gear)... so good luck to you... check your fluid level to start, and see if it is a nice clean red, or it is looking dirty brown or even black.


thanks for the help. I went back and checked the fluid level, it was fine and it was a nice red color so it wasn't burnt. the tranny wouldn't go into any gear tonight when i tried picking the car up so i'm sure the tranny is toast. i also found the papers on the car and the tranny was replaced/rebuilt 50k miles ago, back in 2001. so the warranty wasn't good anymore and i'm out a lot of $$. boo for bad luck.
 

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If if acts like it is in neutral then the TC more than likely went or your pump shaft.
 

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You can see if it is the pump shaft by disconnecting a cooler hose, start the engine and see if you can pump any fluid out.
 

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SHOZ123 said:
You can see if it is the pump shaft by disconnecting a cooler hose, start the engine and see if you can pump any fluid out.

You wouldn't get any movement out of it if the pump shaft broke. Since he can get it to move, it's definitely something else.
 

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