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Ill have to try them out at the convention..
Brembo Cobra R / Four *** calipers PICS
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ManySHOs
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I considered this kit (the T-bird people run it) and read a good deal about it on the corner carvers forum.
click (scroll down to see the Brembo kit)
The bottom line for me was that the caliper is smallish, the required caliper clearance was pretty big, the rotors aren't that great and it's expensive. For a fixed 4 *** caliper, Todd's TCE FSL kit over 1.1" rotors can't be beat performance or pricewise.
Interesting thread I just found on a related topic though:
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Ian
click (scroll down to see the Brembo kit)
The bottom line for me was that the caliper is smallish, the required caliper clearance was pretty big, the rotors aren't that great and it's expensive. For a fixed 4 *** caliper, Todd's TCE FSL kit over 1.1" rotors can't be beat performance or pricewise.
Interesting thread I just found on a related topic though:
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Ian
adidas_kn
LOWSHO
Soo these calipers will just bolt on in place of the PBR 2 piston unit over the 13" rotors? I have been wondering that for awhile.
adidas_kn
LOWSHO
How far do they stick out from the rotor face to the edge of the caliper? I have 18x7.5" Enkei J10s in a 40mm offset I believe. I wonder if these will fit propperly. If so I will be getting these Focus RS units which are identical except silver.
I will have to sell my custom painted and polished 13" PBR kit.
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I will have to sell my custom painted and polished 13" PBR kit.
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adidas_kn said:
Yes these calipers are unmodified. Right off the Mustang and onto the SHO.
Where can you purchase those Focus RS calipers. I was informed about them, but was told they are obsolete now. I can get the Cobra Rs for about $650 shipped.
Next time I play around with the calipers I will take some measurements.
adidas_kn
LOWSHO
I found the Focus ones for $688 + 25 shipping including the pads on Ebay stores.
ManySHOs
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black92 said:
The focus calipers are the same as the Cobra ones (except for the color as adidas pointed out). I believe that the Cobra calipers were only available as a kit with rotors, pads, etc whereas the focus setup comes with just the calipers (and pads?). You can find them on ebay and you might be able to find them at www.diskbrakesrus.com
Ian
Shoaz
Studly dood
ManySHOs said:
I agree. Given the fitment and packaging issues with the SHO, Todd's kits are a great way to go if one wants a fixed caliper.
Running a huge spacer without changing the wheel offset adds stress on the wheel bearings as well as increasing the likelihood of rubbing issues on the fenders.
And people looking at fixed calipers should be aware that pad knockback can be an issue (just something to be aware of, nothing huge).
Having said all that, I'm sure it's possible to make Brembo's work on a SHO. Whether it's a good tradeoff (especially for a track car) is a bigger question.
ManySHOs
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Shoaz said:
When you buy Brembo, you are also paying extra for the name. Wilwood has been selling race calipers for years. In terms of quality and performance their newest Forged Superlites are up to par with calipers that cost three times as much. For reference, their FSL calipers can be found as cheaply as $140 each. They don't have rubber seals that can burn up and melt at the track either. If I ever need to replace them, I'd much rather spend ~$300 for the pair instead of $680 for the Brembos. For that price, I could get another set of rotors and pads as well.
I used to run the .81 SHOstopper kit with the huge hats to run slicers (the hats had long studs and could be thought of as one giant spacer). With moderate street driving, I was going through wheel bearings every 18 months or so. With the 1.1" setup and thin hats that I run now, I've had 0 problems.
The one neat thing about the brembo setup is that (AFAIK) they should bolt up to 94+ spindles. (The TCE kits use modified pre-94 spindles.) That's pretty attractive to anyone who wants to run a modified gen3 subframe on their gen1/2. Of course that's not something that many people end up doing.
If you wanted to go all out and really waste money, I believe that Brembo has a Gran Turismo 14" kit for the SN95 Mustang. Theoretically, it should bolt up but I don't know about the offset. If anyone has $5K lying around, I'd be interested in seeing the results
To the original poster; I think it's great that you're trying to do this and I'm looking forward to seeing the results. I'm just trying to point out some other alternatives that might be a better fit and more cost effective. I'm obviously quite biased as I really dig my TCE SHOstopper kit.
www.tceperformanceproducts.com
Ian
jedhead
New Member
Maybe you can use the corvette deep offset rotors and Baer Racing modified knuckles instead.
Bob
Bob
dantheman68
Kinda Big deal
black92 said:
but if youre tracking it on those rims... i think youll have some overheating issues with the brakes... there is basically NO clearance with those rims and a 13' brake setup... maybe for a DD setup, or agressive street driving
Shoaz
Studly dood
black92 said:
More or less the same thing that TCE does; modified pre-94 knuckles.
JEM
SHO Member
Shoaz said:
You gain about another half-inch of hat depth with the Corvette-hat rotors, the limiting factor in that combination is that the rotor is so close to the lower balljoint dustboot that if you get the brakes suitably hot the dustboot splits down the side facing the rotor and squirts grease on the hot rotor.
Got black-flagged for flaming brakes at Laguna once, replaced the lower arm, got black-flagged for flames coming off the brakes at the next event, got wise and wrapped the lower boot in silver duct tape. Reflected enough heat that I had no further trouble.
Oh, and for what it's worth the late-model Mustang guys I know (I've got one too, but it's still in pieces and has a Griggs four-*** setup on it) generally consider the Baer C5 package at least the equal of the Cobra R-spec 4-*** Brembos in track use, and the C5 setup reputedly gets much better pad life.
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Just to cap this up. I have put the upgrade on hold for now. But I do want to say it is do-able. With some spacers and Team Dynamic PR2's, the caliper should clear the wheel.
I just don't have funds to finance $650-700 calipers and a few extra bucks for spacers. But if anybody wants any info send me a question, I have access to these calipers at anytime.
I just don't have funds to finance $650-700 calipers and a few extra bucks for spacers. But if anybody wants any info send me a question, I have access to these calipers at anytime.
JEM
SHO Member
Did I note before that some local Fox Mustang guys I know who've run both the Brembo Cobra R brakes and the Baer C5 PBR package in heavy track use prefer the Baer setup?
JEM
SHO Member
You need Baer brackets and 13x1.25in rotors w/the right hat offset but the C5 calipers are easier to find (if you don't want to just order 'em from Baer) and there's minimal to no wheel-clearance issues with the usual run of 17in aftermarket wheels.
