Bought a CTS-V to keep my SHO company in the garage

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I recently replaced my 2013 Ecoboost Flex with a 2011 CTS-V sedan (automatic). I loved the Flex, but was looking for something a little more interesting to drive as an alternative to my SHO. As most SHO owners already know, the SHO is like Rodney Dangerfield - it just doesn't get any respect. I suspect most people simply can't get past the "Taurus" badge. The CTS-V, on the other hand, seems to maybe get a little too much respect.

My SHO is a 2014 PP car with 9,100 miles on the odometer. I purchased it new in November of 2013 for $39K (MSRP $47K) . I'm running an Unleashed 93 octane tune, PPE catted downpipes, H&R springs, and 245/40-19 Bridgestone RE-11 tires. The Bridgestones are 2"smaller in diameter than the OEM tires, which effectively results in a much more aggressive final drive ratio. In addition, the tires lower the car another inch beyond the H&Rs. It would be hard to overstate the effect these tires had on the car - steering response is much sharper and traction is incredible. Between the H&Rs and the tires, handing is substantially more aggressive than stock. The higher numerical final drive ratio due to the smaller tire diameter makes acceleration noticeably stronger.

The CTS-V is stock with slightly more than 35,000 miles on the odometer. I paid $38,500 for it. It's bone stock, right down to the OEM spec Michelin PS2s, which are simply not in the same league as the Bridgestones (but better than the SHO's OEM Goodyear F1s).

Initial impressions:
The Taurus is a much bigger car than the CTS. The SHO is much roomier inside and has a huge trunk. The bigger interior results in more and bigger storage compartments throughout the cabin. Anyone who claims the Taurus is cramped hasn't driven one.

Interior materials are slightly better in the V, but the SHO has lower NVH levels, particularly above 30 mph.
Driving the V requires constant diligence to prevent wheelspin. The SHO can be driven ridiculously fast by just about anyone - it makes heroes out of zeros.

Other than the wonders of AWD, the V and the SHO are remarkably similar when driven at 8 tenths. Only at higher speeds (80mph+) does the V's extra power become obvious. The Caddy will simply walk away from the SHO at high speed. In normal or aggressive street driving, I'll take the SHO. I will be installing RE-11s on the CTS shortly, which I think will allow me to access more of the car's performance.

The SHO has more luxury/tech features than the CTS, but I really like the ability to shift the Caddy manually via the center console shifter (as opposed to the SHO's paddles).

I was afraid I wouldn't want to drive the SHO much after experiencing the Cadillac, but that simply hasn't happened. In fact, I'm more convinced than ever that the SHO is a spectacular bargain and one of the best kept secrets in the world of cars.
 

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Awesome write up. I myself have been debating the CTS-V. For me it's the V8 sound, manual transmission and extra horsepower. Sounds like I should just be content with the SHO.


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Awesome write up. I myself have been debating the CTS-V. For me it's the V8 sound, manual transmission and extra horsepower. Sounds like I should just be content with the SHO.


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I miss my 2012 GT, but the Taurus is definitely a better family vehicle. Eventually (probably when the girls get out of High School), I'll be able to finish the Coyote swap in my '84 Capri.

I haven't sat or ridden in a CTS-V, but I would have thought they were of a similar, if not better quality, than the SHO. Compared to either of my Fox chassis cars, I bet it's a space ship :p
 

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I've driven an older manual cts-v and an ecoboost sho. the 6 speed manual is just awesome I don't think it compares. maybe I should revisit this new sho...:)
 

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Well I feel like im out of the loop. I drive my 15 SHO and an 04 Saturn Vue Redline, the most reliable vehicle ive ever owned. 180,000 miles without one issue, gotta love honda engines.
 

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Congrats on the new ride, when do we get to see some pictures? :D
Well, it's a generic black CTS-V (if you've seen one, you've seen them all) but I'll try to get some pics up shortly. Maybe some side-by-sides with the SHO to highlight the size difference.

I haven't sat or ridden in a CTS-V, but I would have thought they were of a similar, if not better quality, than the SHO.

IMHO, the Caddy materials are slightly better and, maybe more importantly, more consistent throughout the cabin. The SHO is an odd mix of surprisingly nice parts mixed with some questionable plasticky parts.

I've driven an older manual cts-v and an ecoboost sho. the 6 speed manual is just awesome I don't think it compares. maybe I should revisit this new sho....

A manual transmission introduces a whole different dynamic into the situation, so it would be hard to make an apples to apples comparison. I find MT cars much more engaging to drive. Also, you didn't say what year SHO you drove, but there's some pretty signficant differences in driving dynamics depending on the year/configuration. On one extreme, a 2010-2012 non-PP car is an entirely difference experience than a 2013+ PP car. Also, keep in mind that a tune (not to mention downpipes) chops nearly 1 second off the SHO's 1/4 mile time, putting it right into CTS-V territory. Factor in the V's traction limitations, and it's entirely possible that the SHO and CTS-V are in the same ballpark in terms of real world straight line performance at lower speeds. As far as handling goes, mine is lowered a couple of inches from stock, plus I'm running much better tires than the standard V tires, all of which drastically narrows the gap between the 2 cars.

Awesome write up. I myself have been debating the CTS-V. For me it's the V8 sound, manual transmission and extra horsepower. Sounds like I should just be content with the SHO..

The V8 sound is definitively preferable to the SHO's V6 hum at lower speeds, but the SHO becomes whisper quiet at highway speeds while the V's V8 rumble is ever present. I'm an old dude, so sometimes I just want it to be quiet, especially on the highway.

I don't think of the V as an alternative to the SHO. It's more like they're complimentary. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm lucky enough to have both, but everyone has different priorities, so it's hard to say which is "better".
 
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