Blend Door Actuators

[firstgen89sho]

Alright, I have searched, but have not come across a definite answer

I have looked at 2 different BDA's here at my work (Ford Dealership)

there is the F3DZ-19E616-A and the F0DZ-19E616-A blend door actuators.

what is the exact difference between the 2 actuators?

the F3 actuator is from 01/94 up and the F0 actuator is up to 01/94

does anyone have pictures of both?

I know the older actuators are big and bulky, are the newer ones smaller? is that the only difference?

 

[dantheman68]

there is no difference, it is common ford practice to change part numbers after the car is manufactured...


i reccomend http://fastpartsnetwork.com/ for your BDA

 

[Devin]

There is a BIG difference between the ones that work in the 89s and 90s, and maybe others and the ones in later years. The wiring harness on the 90 version (for reference) is soldered onto the PCB of the BDA (BDM, whatever), whereas the newer version has a male connection on the plastic. Such that the car is equipped with the harness and not the other way around. I'll dig out pictures if I can find them. I went around and around with the FPN rep for months and she shipped me two parts, all of which I had to return because they weren't correct.

The one out of my 90:

Supposedly the one that is compatible:

When I get home I'll dig up the exact part numbers I used.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

there is no difference, it is common ford practice to change part numbers after the car is manufactured...


i reccomend http://fastpartsnetwork.com/ for your BDA

This is not always true - sometimes the newer part number simply replaces the older, obsoleted number; sometimes a new part number simply reflects a price increase by Ford; sometimes it represents an entirely different part. An experienced parts counter person can tell you, usually within minutes, if not less.


The F2DH-19E694-AB in the image above, is an engineering part number that any dealer can trace to the actual Ford part number.

 

[dantheman68]

well.. i was pretty sure that the active part replaces the older version.... they come with the bracketry to convert it over... plus if you buy from fast parts network they have great customer service and will take returns and stuff very well if something doesnt work out for you

 

[Devin]

They did indeed take the incorrect parts back, but they sent me the wrong part every time. In my case the BDA fit just fine, but the harness just wasn't there.

Needless to say, if a part number changes it means something could have changed, and more than likely has.

I seem to have deleted my emails from FPN so I don't know what part number was on the original piece.

 

[firstgen89sho]

ok, I have the F0DZ-19E616-A Blend door actuator sitting at work right now, and I also have a F3DZ-19E616-A blend door on order, should be in tomorrow or sat.

I will take pics of both and post them up, to show the differences between the 2. one thing that I did notice is that a spare evap case that I have lingering around in the garage, from a 90 it has the wires soldered to the BDA, and I also found a TSB (from searching the site here) showing that the harness is available, I checked through parts, and yes, it is still available through Ford. It is in the Vintage IIRC 44 peices left. although Ford wanted a rediculois price for the harness (IIRC it was $115 dealer cost)

luckly I have found somone that is parting out a 93 SHO with ATC, so I will grab that harness as well (since the dash is already out)

 

[firstgen89sho]

Alright, I have taken some pics of the differences between the BDA's of the F0DZ-19E616-A and the F3DZ-19E616-A

As said before both units can be interchanged, and IMHO get the newer style BDA, the F3DZ-A

 

[Rockledge]

Slo_SHO, is the part number on the newer unit itself the same as the part number on the box?

My BDA had a different part number on it (F3DH-19E694-AB); the box did have the part # F3DZ-19E616-A on it, though.

http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=31156

 

[firstgen89sho]

Yeppers, it has a F3DZ-19E694-AB designation on it

I beleive the 19E694 designation is for the motor itself, and the 19E616 is for the motor and plate assy

 

[Rockledge]

Yeppers, it has a F3DZ-19E694-AB designation on it

I beleive the 19E694 designation is for the motor itself, and the 19E616 is for the motor and plate assy

That's a good possibility. And along those lines, I bet Ford puts the same motor in other BDA assemblies, which in turn are used in different applications.

 

[firstgen89sho]

not too sure about the differences between the MAN blend door and the ATC blend door motors

 

[Devin]

Neither of those will work in a 90, unfortunately, without that damn harness.

 

[firstgen89sho]

I know, I have a harness to convert over, and also now, I found out that the harnesses can still be gotten from Ford through their vintage channel, Ford's cost for the harness up here in Canada through the dealer is about $100