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sorry dude, i thought u had a '93 like i do.....
96 brake upgrade
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Considering all this headache and hassle, you could look to simply put one of my kits on the car and be done with it. Yea, it costs more, but in the end you'd find it was money well spent... And if you have 16's still and do the 17s in the future you can simply 'up size' the brackets for larger rotors.
SHOTIME
Giver of life
you can get 13 inch rotors for 400 bucks.. Why do I need to spend the money one yours?
Twin *** cobra calipers
and a 13 inch rotor. bolts directly to the front spindles of a 94/95 SHO.
Tell me the benifits of your set up
Fair enough. You obviously don't know the history of the SHO Stoppers and other kits out there.
Let's start with four piston, fixed mount calipers, unless you wish to do six piston caliipers instead. Add a variety of rotor options; both in 12.2 and 13" sizes, a near limitless supply of pad options for everything from street to track endurance. All packaged in a lighter weight, more service frriendly conversion. Spare/replacement parts that are less expensive.
Recently had a phone call, and one which I hope to get a print follow up on, from a 'new' customer who purchased a second SHO to go with the one he has now with a brake set up like what you have. He tells me that he liked what he had and felt it was a great product. Then he drove the 'new' car with my SHO Stoppers on it. In his words "no comparrison, had he only had the opportunity to drive these first, he would not have bought the kit he did" This is a near direct quote.
Please, of course feel free to purchase what you wish. I'm just here as there are many new SHO owners who don't really know what the market has to offer. I've been around these cars since 1990 and making my kits available since leaving Bondurant in 1993 where it was used previously, in a slightly different form when designed originally by Rousch. With many of them out there, you simply need to hook up with an owner and get some real seat of the pants time.
Let's start with four piston, fixed mount calipers, unless you wish to do six piston caliipers instead. Add a variety of rotor options; both in 12.2 and 13" sizes, a near limitless supply of pad options for everything from street to track endurance. All packaged in a lighter weight, more service frriendly conversion. Spare/replacement parts that are less expensive.
Recently had a phone call, and one which I hope to get a print follow up on, from a 'new' customer who purchased a second SHO to go with the one he has now with a brake set up like what you have. He tells me that he liked what he had and felt it was a great product. Then he drove the 'new' car with my SHO Stoppers on it. In his words "no comparrison, had he only had the opportunity to drive these first, he would not have bought the kit he did" This is a near direct quote.
Please, of course feel free to purchase what you wish. I'm just here as there are many new SHO owners who don't really know what the market has to offer. I've been around these cars since 1990 and making my kits available since leaving Bondurant in 1993 where it was used previously, in a slightly different form when designed originally by Rousch. With many of them out there, you simply need to hook up with an owner and get some real seat of the pants time.
SHOTIME
Giver of life
Sounds good, Tell me, what does a new 13 inch rotor cost?
The 4 pots are lighter than the cobra 2 pots?
Is a master cylinder upgrade nesissary?
What are you options for the rear brakes?
I hope I didnt come off as rude, I just wanna hear the pros and cons..
Sell me!
The 4 pots are lighter than the cobra 2 pots?
Is a master cylinder upgrade nesissary?
What are you options for the rear brakes?
I hope I didnt come off as rude, I just wanna hear the pros and cons..
Sell me!
fredhurderjr
New Member
Todd -
My $.02; I love the technology of your kit. Honestly, if I were looking at a $1500 range upgrade, I'd SERIOUSLY look at yours first, even before the Baer. Those in the know have spoken miles about your products & your company to me.
In my case, I've done the 96 upgrade on my 95 MTX, and after one date at Summit Point, I found my problem was the confidence in the brakes (not necessarily physical braking problems that day, but my trust in them at 120+ coming down the front stretch with a Vette in front of me).
The Baer Sport System & the TCE kits are both in the $1500-1600 range, if I'm correct; the Baer Track System is about $625 ($745 drilled slotted & plated); according to folks looking for used or Autozone parts, you could get the Cobra brakes for about $400-500, and a 96 Upgrade for a 95 is running about $300-350, if I remember correctly.
Perhaps you could do a comparison of the rotor unsprung weight difference, the caliper weight differences, better clearance with the Alcons (?), heat dissipation / brake fade issues, stopping distances for us, between the stock 95 / 96 Upgrade / estimated Cobra 2-piston PBR / TCE 4-piston & 6-piston upgrades? I don't even know if this data has been compiled for the SHO.
Thanks for your time.
My $.02; I love the technology of your kit. Honestly, if I were looking at a $1500 range upgrade, I'd SERIOUSLY look at yours first, even before the Baer. Those in the know have spoken miles about your products & your company to me.
In my case, I've done the 96 upgrade on my 95 MTX, and after one date at Summit Point, I found my problem was the confidence in the brakes (not necessarily physical braking problems that day, but my trust in them at 120+ coming down the front stretch with a Vette in front of me).
The Baer Sport System & the TCE kits are both in the $1500-1600 range, if I'm correct; the Baer Track System is about $625 ($745 drilled slotted & plated); according to folks looking for used or Autozone parts, you could get the Cobra brakes for about $400-500, and a 96 Upgrade for a 95 is running about $300-350, if I remember correctly.
Perhaps you could do a comparison of the rotor unsprung weight difference, the caliper weight differences, better clearance with the Alcons (?), heat dissipation / brake fade issues, stopping distances for us, between the stock 95 / 96 Upgrade / estimated Cobra 2-piston PBR / TCE 4-piston & 6-piston upgrades? I don't even know if this data has been compiled for the SHO.
Thanks for your time.
I'm happy to share infor here, keep in mind it's part of what I pay for with these banner ads!
First, I don't claim to have all the answers or all the products for everyone. Only what I feel is the best all around value in brake upgrades. Sure it's a personal opinion, but one I drive with (ok my wife does) daily.
I believe that the original SHO Stopper was cleary the lightest of the kits out there at least years ago. The floater on a two piece rotor may be close in weight but you're giving up the clamping force for the weight savings....
Yes, the price has gone up a bit, but I can still come close to the original $1295 price if I drop the Billet calipers and run the standard rotors, but that's not what people seem to want today. Remember; I had to fit the stock wheel years ago.
Most of the info and pricing is on the web site. And you can direct questions to me vai email.
Regards,
First, I don't claim to have all the answers or all the products for everyone. Only what I feel is the best all around value in brake upgrades. Sure it's a personal opinion, but one I drive with (ok my wife does) daily.
I believe that the original SHO Stopper was cleary the lightest of the kits out there at least years ago. The floater on a two piece rotor may be close in weight but you're giving up the clamping force for the weight savings....
Yes, the price has gone up a bit, but I can still come close to the original $1295 price if I drop the Billet calipers and run the standard rotors, but that's not what people seem to want today. Remember; I had to fit the stock wheel years ago.
Most of the info and pricing is on the web site. And you can direct questions to me vai email.
Regards,
kaoticSHO
Thread Killer
I am the "new" customer that Todd is talking about. 
I am enjoying the 12'' Wilwood brakes on my mtx 94 so much so that I talked with Todd tonight and about to upgrade to the 6 piston caliper and 13's. As you all know, I have the Baer PBR Track 13.1 on the supercharged sho, however in all honesty I like the feel and linear braking capability of the Wilwood's over the Baer setup. I am not knocking Baer, still a good product but my money is going with Wilwood. Plus Todd has been very easy to talk with and is a wealth of knowledge. ****, he even drives a SHO.
<small>[ May 23, 2002, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: kaoticSHO ]</small>
I am enjoying the 12'' Wilwood brakes on my mtx 94 so much so that I talked with Todd tonight and about to upgrade to the 6 piston caliper and 13's. As you all know, I have the Baer PBR Track 13.1 on the supercharged sho, however in all honesty I like the feel and linear braking capability of the Wilwood's over the Baer setup. I am not knocking Baer, still a good product but my money is going with Wilwood. Plus Todd has been very easy to talk with and is a wealth of knowledge. ****, he even drives a SHO.
<small>[ May 23, 2002, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: kaoticSHO ]</small>
SHOTIME
Giver of life
Hey kaoticSHO
can I drive both cars to compare? Ill drive out to where ever you are.
thumbs_u
can I drive both cars to compare? Ill drive out to where ever you are.
thumbs_u
fredhurderjr
New Member
You'd need a car that runs in order to drive out to J's place, bub. Dig-dig.
Thanks for the response Todd.
Jason -
Remembering that I'm on a VERY sub-$1k budget for brakes, would you have a problem with the Baer Track system being a suitable upgrade than the 96's I have now?
Take that a step further - if you upgrade to the Wilwood setup, can I buy your 13" Baer system? I'll trade you new HIDs for them...
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Thanks for the response Todd.
Jason -
Remembering that I'm on a VERY sub-$1k budget for brakes, would you have a problem with the Baer Track system being a suitable upgrade than the 96's I have now?
Take that a step further - if you upgrade to the Wilwood setup, can I buy your 13" Baer system? I'll trade you new HIDs for them...
<small>[ May 23, 2002, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: fredhurderjr ]</small>
Dave Romanski
New Member
Does anyone know the Ford part number on the brackets for the 96' brake upgrade?
kaoticSHO
Thread Killer
Fred, between the two I would say go with the Wilwoods. You really need more stopping power for your car than just the 96 upgrade. For non-boosted engines the upgrade is okay, but even they would freak if they drove my sho and felt what the brakes are capable of. It really is that much of a difference and Todd is very easy to talk to on the phone and he knows his product. I like to help support products like this.
Both you and I know that most people just want to make their car faster, however they need to understand that brakes are one of the essential parts of running safe and consistantly at a track event.
Both you and I know that most people just want to make their car faster, however they need to understand that brakes are one of the essential parts of running safe and consistantly at a track event.
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