95 Atx Lsd

[SHOOFF13]

Is an mtx limited slip differential the same as an atx limited slip differential? Or do they only fit specific transmissions. I was wondering if you took an lsd out of an mtx and tried to put it into an atx if it would work. I was figuring no probably considering that the transmissions are probably built differently but I am unsure. Can someone help me out and answer this for me?

 

[SeanMc]

The Quaife is made specifically for MTX's and will not fit an ATX. I'm not sure they make one for us .

 

[SHOtimer]

SHOFAST Performance has constructed a LSD for the ATX. That is the only one that I know of.

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

wouldnt the LSD from a GIII, which IIRC was made for the S/C GIII... fit the GII's??
not to sure on that though...

 

[SHOtimer]

wouldnt the LSD from a GIII, which IIRC was made for the S/C GIII... fit the GII's??
not to sure on that though...

Exactly. It does. But, it has only been made (as far as I know) by SHOFAST. It is in 'whoosh' at the moment. The S/C'd Gen III that is.

Doug

 

[SeanMc]

Would it fit my AXOD-SHO trans? I know the G3s use an AX4N.

 

[SHOtimer]

The trans are different but the diffs are the same. So yes. To my knowledge.

Doug

 

[SeanMc]

I might have to consider this then

 

[SHOOFF13]

So a gen 3 lsd would fit my gen 2 atx?

 

[Bizzy]

I know someone who has a line on ATX LSD's for any Taurus ATX tranny. Think the pricing was in the $500 range. Clutch type limited slip, not a traction biasing differential like a quaife. Basically the LSD's that are available for an atx tranny will ensure that each wheel gets power.

the stock differential in a gen2 ATX is the same as the gen3 ATX differential are quite beefy, made of cast iron with huge spiders compared to the MTX crap differential.

 

[SeanMc]

So the stock ATX has a differential in it? Is it the limited slip type?

 

[SHOtimer]

So the stock ATX has a differential in it? Is it the limited slip type?

Well, given this thread those two questions have been answered.

Yes & No.

Doug

 

[oh_SHO]

I've been trying to get a hold of one for a while with no luck. Good luck.

 

[Bizzy]

I've been trying to get a hold of one for a while with no luck. Good luck.

An ATX Limited Slip for a Taurus? If you want one let me know I can see what the availability is for them. might take a day or to to find out.

 

[oh_SHO]

An ATX Limited Slip for a Taurus? If you want one let me know I can see what the availability is for them. might take a day or to to find out.

That would be great.

 

[Bizzy]

found out the details. would taek about 10 days to get you one. Price is $625 which includes shipping and a $100 core charge for a differential. So you'd get your $100's back when you return a working ATX stock differential unit.

If you want further details please feel free to PM me or email me at [email protected]

 

[ROB S]

Here is something we've learned from our other business (FWD 3800 cars). To get even 50/50 distribution you have to lock the 2 sides of the differential together. This is similar to a spool on RWD cars. The problem is that the drive wheels also turn the car and when turning the inside wheel is always going to spin faster. Unfortunately the differential now being locked together can no longer allow this to happen. This results in broken halfshafts and internal transmission components. So scratch that idea. There is no such thing as a bullet proof FWD converted open differential. Here is why.

Now we look at a limited slip differential. There are generally two styles both of which use clutches. One style uses disc like clutches shimmed behind the spider gears. The idea is that when power is applied the spider gears will lock and power will be evenly distributed. The downfall is that to achieve a LSD effect you have to "flash" the differential. Flashing means that when burning out you can't just ease into it; you have to dump it. Another problem is that the inherant problem with an open differential is not being fixed.

The second type of clutched limited slip uses plate clutches placed between the spider gears. This is somewhat more reliable but still doesn't guarantee a 2 wheel burnout. Again, the inherant open differential problem is not fixed and if you don't get a 2 wheel burnout you're sitting on a time bomb.

Here is the real problem among all clutch style differentials: mis-use. People tend to think that now that they have this in their car that they can do whatever they want and so they do and then are shocked once their pin decides to exit the case. I would fear that people with LSD's would experience more failures than those without for no other reason than overconfidence. Bottom line, make sure you know what you're putting in your car. We're blessed with our learning curve on the GM vehicles because we can swap a diff in an hour. On the AX trannies they have to be removed from the car and the case usually needs replacing after a differential failure.