914-SHO Motor teardown & inspection

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Spent most the day cleaning pistons, but I did get some time to hone at least three of the cylinders. Since my crank is still installed I needed to take extra care to avoid getting material in & around it, but also to limit the mess on the upper parts of the block.

Here's what I came up with.
1) First I taped off the cylinder to be honed. I later modified this and taped off the whole surface for the remaining cyls also. I cut a 13 gallon garbage bag in half and laid it over the one side.

2) I took another garbage bag, folded it a few times so it was the width of the cylinder. This one I draped over the crank to protect it.

3) I also cut a circular piece of heavy cardboard (over-sized for the cyl) and slid it down to the bottom of the cylinder so it could rest on the crank. I didn't want to have the hone hit the crank at all. It was necessary to rotate the crank before doing anything so the big counter-weight was out of the way for that cylinder.

As added protection I stuffed a rag between the cardboard and the garbage-bag wrapped crank. This allowed me to be able to slide the hone down until I heard it hit the cardboard.

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4) I added a third garbage bag and taped the upper two together. Here it is already for surgery.

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5) Now to keep the oil on the hone from flying everywhere (which turned out wasn't that bad since the drill is used a such low speeds) - I modified a small box I had so that the hone could spin freely in it before entering the piston. The height of the box needs to be around 6.5" for the shorter ball hones. I'm using the 92mm hone (thanks Tom). This worked out really well and I had almost no spill-over or mess.

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6) As I did each cylinder, I just held the drill in one hand and the box in the other - with the hone positioned inside the box. I lined up the box & hone over the cylinder, set the drill at the correct speed, held the box against the block, and started honing.

Here's the results. Even though it's only a light hone, it took 8-10 in & out cycles to get that. The glaze on these cyls must be hard.

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Here's a before for that cylinder to compare with.

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Wow those cylinders were done. My cars one with 160k and the other with 120k both looked closer to the picture after the honing than the before. That motor must have had some real miles on her.
 

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Wow those cylinders were done. My cars one with 160k and the other with 120k both looked closer to the picture after the honing than the before. That motor must have had some real miles on her.

Yeh, with the wear on the pistons - I'm guessing this was a 200K + motor.
 

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Got the other cyls honed this week, and finally got to fit the new (used) pistons. I think I went from one extreme to the other. Though I'd rather be here. I fit each group of pistons per side (R or L), and I ended up below the clearance using a feeler gauge.
I'll do more accurate measuring tomorrow with the micrometer. Here's the cyl-piston gaps I get with the feeler gauge:

  1. .0015
  2. .0010
  3. .0015
  4. .0015
  5. .0020
  6. .0015

The spec is .0012" per radius (.0024" dia), and what I measured was by pushing the cylinder to one side and fitting the largest feeler gauge in the other side. Not precise, but a rough idea.

If they come out nearly the same after the mic, I'll just go back and do some more honing.
 
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I think you should anyway. That after pic you posted still showed a lot of vertical scoring. Are you using my large hone or the small one? The large one will exert more pressure on the walls. Also use the thinnest oil you can find. Paint thinner is good for this, it tends to keep the balls from clogging up so fast with particles.

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I think you should anyway. That after pic you posted still showed a lot of vertical scoring. Are you using my large hone or the small one? The large one will exert more pressure on the walls. Also use the thinnest oil you can find. Paint thinner is good for this, it tends to keep the balls from clogging up so fast with particles.

Tom

Tom, I tried the large one, but because of its length I couldn't control the hone angle as well - it kept coming out too shallow. I've been using lite-weight synthetic oil, but I'll try the paint thinner.

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Went another round on the honing. The paint thinner/mineral spirits works well - better than a thin oil. It provides lubrication but seems to cut better also. The results are improving - but still seeing some of the vertical scoring. I also noticed I'm not getting a lot of honing at the bottom of the cylinder. With the crank in place - the hone travel is limited.

Before deciding to pull the crank or not, I'm going to test fit each piston individually (without rings) on the crank - and verify I get free movement along its cylinder travel. So far I've only been able to test fit each piston to its cylinder by putting it upside-down in the cylinder. If it turns out any pistons are too tight, then I'll plan to pull the crank and do a more thorough honing.
 

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Been there done that with this project. I didn't hone mine to to much. Just a mild honing worked. Put together and to this days still drives great and has really good compression.
 

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HooRa! :woo-hoo: Pistons are back in.

First I did a test fit of each piston in the cylinder. Each had smooth movement up & down the cylinder. I didn't have the rod cap on so I was just letting the piston gravity drop on the down side - without rings in.

Everything looked good, so I continued to check the ring gaps. Results looked great here too - no grinding required.
  1. Cyl #1 - Ring1 = .014 / Ring2 = .020
  2. Cyl #2 - Ring1 = .015 / Ring2 = .020
  3. Cyl #3 - Ring1 = .015 / Ring2 = .020
  4. Cyl #4 - Ring1 = .016 / Ring2 = .020
  5. Cyl #5 - Ring1 = .015 / Ring2 = .021
  6. Cyl #6 - Ring1 = .014 / Ring2 = .019

Then on with the installation. Right side:

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Left side:

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All cleaned up and ready for heads - just waiting on half-dozen replacement head bolts. But I can get the bottom end/oil pan all closed up.
 

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Got the bottom end all wrapped up. No mail delivery on Sundays - sooo I'm not getting my head bolts today! Dang, coulda had it ready to go by mid-week.

Ahh well, no hurry - right!

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random question for you all -

that threaded plug under the left freeze plug in the photo above - what does it tap into?
 

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random question for you all -

that threaded plug under the left freeze plug in the photo above - what does it tap into?

Thank You! HAH the whole time I was doing my rod bearings I was wondering why that was there and what it taps into.
 

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Judging by the lack of a visible tunnel, I would say the water jacket. Oil passages are usually raised above the surface a little.

Why do you ask?

Tom
 
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