85 mph 2nd gear MTX F#!k

[Jesse Menck]

While I was driving like an ******* which probably serves me right by hurting it, but yes I managed to hit 2nd gear at those speeds car drives although it's parked until I tear it apart, it feels decently smooth on the freeway (drove it home after work day of) but sitting in Nutrual at say a stop light car shakes pretty bad and is damn near impossible to get into gear. Reverse is impossible Just grinds I searched and found a thread of others who have done it and it was almost all pressure plates and throw out bearings possibly flywheel I guess I just want some reassurance that's all you think it might be? Or to tell me i'mma ****** Idiot haha whichever makes you feel better

 

[luigisho]

There's no way to tell until you pull the tranny and look at the clutch. If it's just a pp you got off lucky. You have a lot of disposable income? Racing like a nut costs money

 

[Jesse Menck]

I definitely do not! At this point it's my daily or was, I just bought the damn thing too i'mma have to be nicer to her it's just so fun to drive, do you think I hurt anything internal within the motor or trans? There's no funny noises or anything just the shudder and feeling of something out of balance and it's impossible to change gears I also have when in reverse it has done it slightly before this incident but it's like something slapping in the center of the car it feels like

 

[Jesse Menck]

As far as the clutch the guy I purchased car from recommended it be changed I just made it sooner than I wanted

 

[Toolman]

Some of your pressure plate straps are broken. The straps are designed to handle forces of acceleration, and are not nearly as strong in the opposite direction. Normal engine braking and what-not, but finding 2nd when you were looking for 4th, not so much.

 

[Jesse Menck]

Thanks alot for the reply I will get some new parts and tear it apart and let you know how bad it was

 

[luigisho]

The cars are relatively cheap to purchase. The real cost is keeping them running and the time it takes to do so. It's a fwd 8o's design sedan. They shoved a peppy motor in but the rest of the car is still mostly Taurus with hard to find parts. If you need it to be reliable you have to drive it like a regularish car. Revving it up now and then is fine but finding it's limits will be expensive.

How many miles on this thing?

 

[rubydist]

driving like you stole it is expensive, much more so on a vehicle that is 20 years old.

I agree that most likely the clutch / pressure plate is busted, and hopefully that is all.

 

[Jesse Menck]

I bought from I think the second owner he didn't want to sell it, I've been bugging him for years I've always loved these cars I'd take the car I have now over a subie any day slower or not but car has been well maintained and has thousands into it dude says 80 some thousand but has dash from 2nd gen so I can't be sure but I know he's a die hard sho fan and has had like 15 of em I want to eventually supercharge it it has a zex kit I have a binder full of notes and sho registry magazines forum printouts and so on car is well cared for I want to make it last another 20+ if it will and not just become so much of an inconvenience with problems I wish I was born like 10 years earlier so I coulda got it before it was considered a classic vehicle I drive hard but I don't intentionally do dumb things like this, I don't try to do hard down shifts and I never slow the vehicle down with motor compression ever I don't know if car is quaifed but dude had a white 1st gen he said had like 13 tranny jobs and hasn't done this car once

 

[luigisho]

Do yourself a huge favor and put off forced induction on this car until you have a second vehicle or a lot more money available. What you just did to your car is what forced induction will do to it. Break stuff. That's fine if you have a lot of time and/or money. For now the smart move is practice delayed gratification on your daily driver. Go to the local go cart track and get your driving kicks out there.

This is your older self talking to you. If you only knew then what you know now...a bunch of us are the same guy that drove it hard and modified it all sorts of ways...save yourself the untold thousands of $ and huge chunks of your time.

 

[rubydist]

and it would also be helpful if you learned what a sentence is...

 

[Jesse Menck]

Haha that's hella funny............................


Does that makeup for the periods I missed?


As far as the car no I'm not loaded but the ultimate goal is to keep it a sleeper for most anything. (Although vettes and mustangs are starting to come with stupid power)

 

[luigisho]

Your goal will break your heart and your wallet. To get to that power level you will end up with a car that isn't a good daily driver. Look at all the boosted guys on the board over the years. If the car held together it had to be retired as a daily driver. Stuff broke everywhere and/or it gets squirrelly for driving around town regularly.

It's a nice motor to boost but the Taurus design is not (weak fwd tranny). Even fairly stock cars are getting retired as a daily driver due to how many parts and systems are getting old failing and getting hard to replace (or we get sick of taking so much personal time to keep wrenching on it).

 

[Jesse Menck]

Haha, you probably won't talk my ******* out of it, until I see the car as a huge loss, I have more into it already than its worth, I know they are hard to find but I plan to have spare MTXs, atleast the spare one the guy I brought the car from. But i have found others on Craigslist. I want to have that one disassembled, gears shotpeened and cryo treated. whatever syncros or blocking rings and anything else I can find new on here if people still have and are willing to sell. Do people shotpeen the input shaft? I have also read about shimming and having a small preload set to help with flexing of the shaft

 

[luigisho]

I and many others had the same thoughts at your age. Your not reinventing the wheel with your plans. Buy a vehicle already engineered for that or one that someone already paid for and took a loss on. Don't bend yourself over and fist your own bank account and credit cards. I bought my first SHO about your age and threw all kinds of plastic money I didn't even have at it. I bet $10k easy over a few years. You think you know how this is going to end up. It's not.

 

[AREA 91]

Back to your original problem, you broke a pressure plate strap.
If you pull your starter out, you will see the damage.
Do not drive the car in this condition.
The broken strap will cut into the tranny case.

BTDT

 

[Jesse Menck]

Yeah I read that in another thread, crazy but makes sense.