1991+ In Hershey PA, Yes It's Green

[stpidhoser]

I'm not one to come and take a crap in anyone's for sale threads, but I am the previous owner of this car. It had been flooded as the one picture clearly shows. Water remained in the car until it was sold. I won't comment on the sale price just because I know what I paid for it.

 

[SHOVNST]

I'm not one to come and take a crap in anyone's for sale threads, but I am the previous owner of this car. It had been flooded as the one picture clearly shows. Water remained in the car until it was sold. I won't comment on the sale price just because I know what I paid for it.

Well, you just did.....:wave:

 

[mrecoolgar]

I'm not one to come and take a crap in anyone's for sale threads, but I am the previous owner of this car. It had been flooded as the one picture clearly shows. Water remained in the car until it was sold. I won't comment on the sale price just because I know what I paid for it.

What does the price have to do with anything?
Please elaborate.
And is that why you didn't come over and see it when I invited you?
And is that why you never called me back when I needed your current drivers license for title transfer?
Maybe you're upset that you didn't keep it or have the talent to repair the damage.
Maybe if you had an idea of what I had to do to bring the car back you'd show a wee bit of respect.
Respect... well Tim buddy, you just lost mine.
As for the price, what did you pay Timbo?
Or did your preacher grandfather give you the car?

Oh, did I mention sale is pending?

 

[stpidhoser]

I brought up the flood incident because it was never claimed by insurance. To me, that's something that should have been mentioned in the original posting. Seems a little shady to me you failed to mention that.

To answer all your questions (at least the ones that really matter to the car):
I haven't come to see the car because I've been busy with work and taking care of getting my daily driver back in working order.
I'm quite confused as to why you'd need my current driver's license. I signed the paper work and title to you two years ago. It is not MY fault you didn't take care of getting your end of the paper work done until now.
Upset that I didn't keep the car? There have been a few times I've thought about the car. Not having the "talent" to repair the damage though? That's humorous. It would have not been a wise investment for myself to find the necessary parts to put it back to my liking.
I do have a very good idea what it took to get the car back to what it is now, but I don't feel respect is something you deserve for failing to let any potential buyers know the true past of the car.
And no, my grandfather did not give me the car. The car has been registered/titled only in Pennsylvania, but I actually bought the car from a doctor in the Boston area. It used to be his father's car.

All this being said, I wish you the best of luck with the sale. $2,100 sure seems like a **** of a lot to pay for a flooded SHO. I paid $2,100 when it was in great condition with only the one rust spot on the trunk.

 

[SHOVNST]

For someone who claimed "I'm not one to come and take a crap in anyone's for sale threads" you sure are making up for lost time in this thread. He made it known in post #11 of this thread that the car had water in it and even showed the article with a picture of it. I don't know you nor the seller but 'crapping' on for sale ads annoys me to no end, please feel free to refresh yourself (if you read them in the first place) with the rules of this section......


http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=80613


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[stpidhoser]

I feel you're out of line because Kevin told me the next move was mine. I put in my two cents about the car. None of the rust was there when I sold him the car. I'm just saying, for what "work" has been put into making the car driveable again, I don't see it being worth $2,100. Those are the same muddy water logged seats. I can only imagine the stench of it. To me, I wouldn't want an electrical nightmare waiting to happen as a daily driver. Too bad I didn't do my part and let insurance take it as a loss.

Kevin felt mentioning that the car was in a flood would "**** the sale." Well, honesty would have been nice on his part and I thought it was only fair that potential buyers know this information and that not too much of the car has been changed interior wise.

 

[stpidhoser]

PS - It may have been mentioned in post number 11, but it took someone who knew that was my old car to get my attention here as I don't frequent the forums any longer. Refer to posts 9 and 10. It wasn't until AFTER that the flood gates were opened and the truth let out.

 

[SHOVNST]

I'd respond to your 'reasons' for disregarding the rules but know it would fall on deaf ears, so I give up. 'Crap' all you want Mr. "I'm not one to crap on people's threads"......

 

[boat]

Right or wrong, shouldn't all of these last bit of going back and forth arguments about the car being in a flood have been initially handled via PM's so as not to trash the seller's thread? Just seems to make sense that way, hmmm....

 

[mrecoolgar]

PM'd to me by stpidhoser:
It's really great the car is pending sale. What really got me was that you failed to mention from the get go that it was a flood car. It's not that I didn't have the "talent" to fix it. I just did not feel like it would be worth the money spent to fix it to keep as a daily driver for myself. Had I wanted to, I could have let it sit at another family member's garage and fixed it as time and money allowed.
I'm sorry that I've been busy trying to take care of my own car's situation that is right now, along with training I've been in for work and getting my own house to fix up. It seems as you don't need me to sign anything as you have someone doing some "inside" work for you to get the title situation taken care of.

And my PM reply:
Well lets see, not one call back after 3 attempts.
That's not good.
The only reason the title went thru is because PennDot failed to see or care that your license had expired.
Not that I have an in as everybody has the same guidlines to follow.
Failure to mention 'the flood' was at my discretion.
I felt without seeing the car, mentioning 'the flood' would **** the sale.
Unless said person knew me and the work I do, mentioning 'the flood' would be a detriment.
After all, there is no sign of any flood damage as all has been taken care of.
The bottom line... maybe a call or a PM would have been helpful.
After all, we are all busy.

But I can let it all go.
If you still would like to see it that would be great.
If it passes your inspection, you could post so on my thread.
And like wise, if it doesn't, then post the negatives.
The next move is yours.

 

[S&MSHO]

GLWS.. Even after the dumping its still a nice car. And I think we all know you wouldnt sell a smelly car.

 

[mrecoolgar]

I agree that the initial contact or bashing should have been PM'd.
Tim has no idea what I did to restore the car.
I went to great length and time to do it right.
There is no smell, all electrical works and I have been driving it.
And I still believe Tim has no idea of how he would have repaired the damage.
With comments like, "Those are the same muddy water logged seats. I can only imagine the stench of it."
And, "I wouldn't want an electrical nightmare waiting to happen as a daily driver."
Well, he proves his narrow mindedness and lack of knowledge.
And he refuses to see the car yet he lives in the same town.
Tim, it's no longer your car, let it go.
And if you only post to the shoforum with negatives, maybe it's best you leave and don't come back.
After all, you don't own a S H O.

 

[mrecoolgar]

The next move meant to come see the car then place judgment.
Not keep rattling on with your head up your ****.
How do you know what I changed or didn’t change?
Again, you’re refusing to come see the car.
And the rust would have returned even with no flood.
Just one rust spot on the trunk?
I mean really, there were several areas covered with filler.
How well did you think you knew your car?

You know, I had an ex-wife like you.
She’d call me up and complain.
I’d listen, but when it was my time to talk she’d hang up.

 

[91 Plus]

Looks like a nice car. I been wanting a green 91 plus. I was very interested in it at first. But, I am glad he posted about the flood. Really think that is something you should of mentioned.

 

[Sho Amo]

when you say that your fixed the damage, what did you fix?

 

[mrecoolgar]

Thanks for asking.
All the systems were drained, flushed and refilled with new fluid.
The interior and trunk were completely gutted, dissassembled, properly dried, cleaned then reinstalled.
In fact, I know it's cleaner now than before the 'flood'.
Refer to my for sale thread for my red 89 for an example of my work. http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=86935
All functions were checked for operation, corrected or replaced as needed.

Please remember that this was a fluke 'flood'.
It was fresh water with no contaminents.
And it was in and out of the water within 12-24 hours.
Correct me if I'm wrong Tim.

Everything works, PW, PL Pseats, cruise, AC... it all works.

 

[Sho Amo]

sounds like a great deal. i love me some pluses.

 

[SilverThunder]

Thanks for asking.
All the systems were drained, flushed and refilled with new fluid.
The interior and trunk were completely gutted, dissassembled, properly dried, cleaned then reinstalled.
In fact, I know it's cleaner now than before the 'flood'.
Refer to my for sale thread for my red 89 for an example of my work. http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=86935
All functions were checked for operation, corrected or replaced as needed.

Please remember that this was a fluke 'flood'.
It was fresh water with no contaminents.
And it was in and out of the water within 12-24 hours.
Correct me if I'm wrong Tim.

Everything works, PW, PL Pseats, cruise, AC... it all works.

When I saw it months after the flood, there was still water in the cupholders and mildew all over the seats. I'm not questioning your work, but water DID sit in it longer than 24 hours.

 

[mrecoolgar]

This is true.
Tim did nothing to help the situation including leaving the doors open.

But I stand correct as the flood waters were in and out in under 24 hours.

 

[IM Buddy8]

Woah.. Anger thread :'(