11.6 rears

[38SHO]

so whats the scoop on the 11.6 rear upgrade sho source offers?

I tried to do some searching but I only come up with front brake stuff

the kit includes a new bracket, and what hardware? just the bracket to hub bolts?

also see it has a hubcentric spacer... I take it the front is different then the rear and requires this.... even for a 93?

also maybe a stupid question, but does it fit a slicer? if it does, does it require a spacer?


requires 89-92 calipers/brackets....... does that include any Taurus with rear discs of those years? this helps with my junkyard searching..... Also I assume it uses the same applications pad?


any thoughts owners of this mod have about this brake setup? I will probably pair it up with a 11.6 front setup for now......


thx

 

[yamahaSHO]

What's the scoop? Ask SHO Source.

I have this kit... The bracket just moves the caliper bracket out and you'll need a gen 1 caliper (don't think you'll find it on a regular Taurus) in order to accommadate the width of the rotor. The spacer just helps keep everything centered as the front is larger.0

If you're only doing this with 11.6" in the front, you're really not getting much out of it. I used it to help balance my 13" rotors with an aggressive pad up front.

 

[SeanMc]

What's the scoop? Ask SHO Source.

I have this kit... The bracket just moves the caliper bracket out and you'll need a gen 1 caliper (don't think you'll find it on a regular Taurus) in order to accommadate the width of the rotor. The spacer just helps keep everything centered as the front is larger.0

If you're only doing this with 11.6" in the front, you're really not getting much out of it. I used it to help balance my 13" rotors with an aggressive pad up front.

QFT..

 

[38SHO]

well I'll probably run hawk hps pads up front.....

also what kinda pads are available for those rear calipers?
i can't really find any performance pads on a few websites.... but I'm not done looking yet

The SHosource website says 89-92 calipers...... so I assume they have differences..... I looked up a set of A1 Cardone's on RockAUTO and they say they cross over to a lot of other cars... but who knows how accurate that is

93 Stangs, 93 Cobra, Lincoln mk7 lsc, select years of thunderbirds.... and it also mentions every model of taurus for those years.... if a regular LX taurus from 89-92 has rear discs then I would assume its the right calipers? this makes finding a set in the junkyard a lot easier...... SHO's be getting scarce down here

and wouldn't the increase in rotor size help with the heat..... it would be better then stock no? I need to do rear brakes soon and need new rotors so I was thinking of an upgrade..... as the front will get the 11.6 upgrade soon and some new stainless lines........ who knows if santa claus is nice this year it might happen all at once

 

[K-Dawg]

Todd, I have these brakes. As I've said before, they aren't much more than a looks mod, IMO.

For your questions,

Pretty much, yes.

Yes.

It fits the slicers, but won't fit the stock spare.

The calipers have to come from 89-92 SHOs. Same pad.

You'd be better off buying some stock replacement stuff for the rear and putting your money into the front brakes and/or some better tires.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Kelvin speaks wisely. Listen to him, you must.

FWIW, I run $15/set pads on my 11.6" rears and have tracked on them a few times. There is plenty of pad left and they don't show significant wear/heat problems. I run Hawk HP+ up front (HPS isn't aggressive). I am on my 3rd set of front pads since I've put the rears on.

Yes, increased rotor mass will help with the heat, however, heat isn't an issue on the rear brakes unless you've got a stuck caliper or your tracking the crap out of the solid rotor with aggressive pads.

Although there may be regular Taurii with rear disks (I couldn't tell you), you'll have to ensure they do not have a solid rotor. If they do, you're in the same place you started. I bought the correct reman calipers from Auto Zone and gave them my smaller calipers for cores... No complaints.

 

[SHOtime2511]

Todd, I have these brakes. As I've said before, they aren't much more than a looks mod, IMO.

For your questions,

Pretty much, yes.

Yes.

It fits the slicers, but won't fit the stock spare.

The calipers have to come from 89-92 SHOs. Same pad.

You'd be better off buying some stock replacement stuff for the rear and putting your money into the front brakes and/or some better tires.

agreed.
you'll end up dumping 3 or 4 hundo in the rear brakes and its a waist.
with that much extra you could get a set of PBR Cobra calipers and rotors plus have some left over.

 

[38SHO]

you guys bring up good points........ guess I'll just redo all my stock stuff.... still be a lot of money but i won't have to buy the $150 kit......

and you all don't like the HPS pads? I know they aren't the top of line ones... but they work better cold they say, eat less of the rotor, and still an improvement over stock......... how would they compare to the PFC pads?

 

[Sho Amo]

do you plan to track this car?

if not then theres nothin wrong with those pads.

 

[38SHO]

man im ******* brakes...... if tis good for the track its good for me

 

[SHO92]

HPS pads are great for the street. The HP+ wear through rotors much faster, they're louder and aren't as good as HPS for cold stops. HP+ is a good track pad, and I use them on the street, but I actually prefer the HPS if I were driving only on the street.

If anyone is having problems with the HPS not being enough on the street, they should probably go volunteer at the ER for a week and see what all the accident victims go through, and hopefully tone down the way they're driving.

 

[SHOCH]

I've had the 11.6 fronts (w/ hawk hps pads) and 11.6 rears for 3 years, WITH bias plugs and no complaints except the usual rear sliders pin sticky stuff. I got the hardware from someone who didn't have a sho but won them at a convention, that's the only reason I put them on.
I track it HARD a couple times a year.
I'm not running for lap times, but I am chasing Porter and Tony and such in the advanced group and have NEVER had brake issues like warping and fade with this setup.
There is NO noticable improvment IMHO to the rear, just looks better w/ a five spoke wheel. Prolly a little more mass to spin so it might slow me down in a straight line a little too but I don't care.

 

[38SHO]

still no word on a comparo from someone who's used both Hawk HPS and PFC pads? they are about the same price.... I've used PFC before on 11.6 fronts, they were decent, wonder if the HPS is better

currently I run ceramic pads, they just don't have bite, and they really need to be stopped a couple times before they work real good at transferring heat.... so they aren't a good street pad by any means...... sons of bitches are even starting to make noise on me.... atleast they don't dust and the price was about 8 bucks......

I like to have good brakes.... sorry I do get a little fast for the street sometimes..... so I like a pad that works good the first time I hit it.... and not chewing up rotors left and right is defintely a plus........

 

[Mels]

11.6 all around, here.

Panic stop? Rears lock up and I slide right on by...

 

[yamahaSHO]

...which is an example of what you don't want...

 

[gmorrell]

...which is an example of what you don't want...

Yo Jason, you don't seem to realize that they're not mere mortals like you and I - They Have Madd Tyte Driving Skillzs, and they will threshold brake when that garbage truck pulls out into their path.

You and I? We'd just rotate around and slide into the Waste Management Green box, ass-first...

 

[somedude_001]

Yo Jason, you don't seem to realize that they're not mere mortals like you and I - They Have Madd Tyte Driving Skillzs, and they will threshold brake when that garbage truck pulls out into their path.

You and I? We'd just rotate around and slide into the Waste Management Green box, ass-first...

whoa wait a min are you trying o tell me we are not supposed to do that?

 

[38SHO]

just picked up some 11.6 loaded calipers and rotors from the junkyard today, so I'll stick with the stock rears since I"m not going with cobras now

nice low mileage wrecked sable.... still even has nice factory rotors and about 80% pad life left...... I"ll run them for now and save some money then get new rotors and Hawk pads later down the road... i'm a cheap bastard, factory 11.6 stuff is still an upgrade compared to my brakes now.....

 

[K-Dawg]

Speaking of the 11.6" rears, has anyone had any problem with the pad hanging over the edge of the rotor? I took mine apart yesterday in search of a rear end hum at low speeds. I found the the driver side pad hangs over the top of the rotor by about 1/6". I think it may be the pad that's not right, but I'll have to take both sides apart again to know for sure.

 

[38SHO]

u could take a grinder to the pad and bevel that top and cut some out so it doesn't over hang.... free fix