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Dang miss spelled quailfe. Ummm don't hurt me.


Will I be ok without one? That's until I can hunt one down. How does the trans hold up? Both autoxing and roadracing without one?

i can't imagine autocrossing without one, to be honest. especially on the tighter, more technical courses, trying to get out of corners while laying down the power. for road racing though, i believe Eric's pumpkin is still an open diff.
 

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Sorry was trying to be funny. Won't do that again.


Please teach me. I want to learn as much as I can

Soory won't happen again. Ever.
 

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Sorry was trying to be funny. Won't do that again.


Please teach me. I want to learn as much as I can

Soory won't happen again. Ever.
 

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Alright its cool.

Well what a Quaife does is it converts the SHOs driveline to possi. Meaning both tires spin at all times instead of non-possi where as the tire with the least amount of friction spins to grip the road. (Stock the SHO is equiped with non-possi.)

Definitely a great buy for track use.
 

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Sorry it was a bad joke.

I will never ever happen again.

Please I want to learn about everything there is.

Sorry I will not make a joke again ever.
 

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Ok. So as the inside spins the tq transfers to the other wheel is spining? Ok. Nice.

My computer froze but the last time I miss spelled a word on this forum they grill for days. I almost left here.
 

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Well how well do you do?

2nd in NASA Arizona TTD championship in 2006, 2007 NASA Arizona TTD Champion

http://nasa-tt.com/Arizona_Standings

Also holds two NASA AZ track records:

http://nasa-tt.com/Arizona_Track_Records

i can't imagine autocrossing without one, to be honest. especially on the tighter, more technical courses, trying to get out of corners while laying down the power. for road racing though, i believe Eric's pumpkin is still an open diff.

Pumpkin has a Quaife, the silver car had an open diff.

Dont hurt you? What are you 5?

Im just trying to help you out. But if your gonna act like a kid about it then goodluck trying to find one and learn about them.

Jeebuz, dood, over-react a little bit ever?

Sorry it was a bad joke.

I will never ever happen again.

Please I want to learn about everything there is.

Sorry I will not make a joke again ever.

Jokes are fine. Ignore people who can't take them.
 

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Well what a Quaife does is it converts the SHOs driveline to possi. Meaning both tires spin at all times

Negative ghostrider...a 50/50 split at all times would be a shitshow, especially on a fwd. A spool or a welded diff will split 50/50, but what most folks call a "locker" will even ratchet around corners.

A Posi (or positraction) is an old GM term that was used for their factory limited slip diffs (similar to what a quaife is).

Semantics, I know.
 

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A Posi (or positraction) is an old GM term that was used for their factory limited slip diffs (similar to what a quaife is).

Semantics, I know.

Yes, and to be most accurate a Quaife is a Torque Biasing Differential. Closer to a Torsen than anything else.
 

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Alright its cool.

Well what a Quaife does is it converts the SHOs driveline to possi. Meaning both tires spin at all times instead of non-possi where as the tire with the least amount of friction spins to grip the road. (Stock the SHO is equiped with non-possi.)

Definitely a great buy for track use.

What can I do to convert my SHO to a posse? Does it have to do illegal stuff?

A Quaife is so much more than a limited slip. Its not that important for road racing, but autocrossing without one sucks.
 

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Yes, and to be most accurate a Quaife is a Torque Biasing Differential. Closer to a Torsen than anything else.


Right. And a Torsen is a limited slip differential (it will allow you to corner under throttle without crazy bangs, hops and screeches LOL). It doesn't lock 50/50 100% of the time.
 

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Its not a limited slip. Take the load off one wheel and it becomes an open diff.

From Quaife...
The Quaife, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other wheel.

Yes it is torque biasing...but it allows for slippage so you don't end up with a 50/50 split...this is a good thing in corners...and withthe same princeple working in a straight line, you get almost 50/50...win-win.

I had one in my last GTi...only a few posts here but I've been around the block a few times LOL. I've also owned several vehicles with detroit and no-slip lockers...I wouldn't ever want one in a FWD application.
 
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A big difference between a Quaife and the typical limited slip diff, which I think is what K-Dawg was trying to point out, is that if you take all the load off one wheel with a Quaife it behaves like an open diff. i.e., one wheel in the air, apply power, only the lifted wheel spins and ZERO torque goes to the other wheel. Apply a enough resistance (load) the lifted wheel, and the Quaife will eventually figure it out and move some of the torque to the other one, too. That's not typical LSD behavior.

The lines are blurry around what people typically mean by LSD, and there are so many technologies, e.g., lockers, Torsens, Quaifes, clutch-packed diffs, etc., etc., that it's not surprising that there's confusion.
 

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Negative ghostrider...a 50/50 split at all times would be a shitshow, especially on a fwd. A spool or a welded diff will split 50/50, but what most folks call a "locker" will even ratchet around corners.

A Posi (or positraction) is an old GM term that was used for their factory limited slip diffs (similar to what a quaife is).

Semantics, I know.

Damn learn something new everyday. Thanks man that was a good quick lesson on how Quaifes work. :thumb:
 
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