11 second SHO.

[TT SHO PROJECT]

holy noob post

you realize that to do 11's in an all motor sho would require said sho to weigh less then 1900 pounds right ?

meaning the rolling chassis used would have to weigh less then 1100 pounds ....

were planning on hitting 11's in a 3400 pound car with almost zero weight redux, and a bunch of ADDED weight

were already one of the VERY few SHO's thats done 12's AT the drag strip, and we did it on a totaly stock and slowly dieing engine thats already lived for 210,000+ miles

all motor 11's my A55

11's with a stock weight sho... na? Very posible.. do you not know of the 500+hp na Sho motor? tahts used in a salt flats car?? im not trying to down what you know or what ever i just wanted to point out that anythings posible, its just alot harder to hit the higher numbers with out a power adder... but lets say u do a 3.3L ultra high comp motor fully ported everything 13.5:1 com ratio, built and balenced inturnals to rev to lets say 10k rpms.... 500-600hp is easy But very pricey to be had in a motor that small... but it Can and has been done... maybe not the 1/4 mile times na in a sho but it has been shown that the sho motor CAN make sick hp numbers NA its just alotta work and alotta money to get it there and keep it there with out nukeing the thing. thats just my 2 cents... no offence ment at all here dude i respect what you know and all your work.


-Bob.

 

[BlackonBlack89]

11's with a stock weight sho... na? Very posible.. do you not know of the 500+hp na Sho motor? tahts used in a salt flats car?? im not trying to down what you know or what ever i just wanted to point out that anythings posible, its just alot harder to hit the higher numbers with out a power adder... but lets say u do a 3.3L ultra high comp motor fully ported everything 13.5:1 com ratio, built and balenced inturnals to rev to lets say 10k rpms.... 500-600hp is easy But very pricey to be had in a motor that small... but it Can and has been done... maybe not the 1/4 mile times na in a sho but it has been shown that the sho motor CAN make sick hp numbers NA its just alotta work and alotta money to get it there and keep it there with out nukeing the thing. thats just my 2 cents... no offence ment at all here dude i respect what you know and all your work.


-Bob.

:laugh_ti:

 

[Toolman]

500-600hp is easy

-Bob.

I am going to politely disagree. Easy is not the word to describe what it takes to get 500 (even 400) hp from a 3.3L engine NA.

 

[somedude_001]

lol, im sorry i didnt mean to come off like that

i just said that for the naysayers

i fully support you guys and your quest for 11's, i know it can be done on your setup, i was just merely stating that other fat 4dr's have gone as fast/faster than the SHO and that we have alot of catching up to do

that is all

fordbastards ftw!

I like setting reccords. who would have though I would ever be able to be doing thins kind of stuff on a $300 a week pay check. i've got more money on transmissions than the cost of the car + all maintnance and performance upgrades combined.

 

[somedude_001]

I am going to politely disagree. Easy is not the word to describe what it takes to get 500 (even 400) hp from a 3.3L engine NA.

**** i wasn't even aware that we hit 300whp NA yet

 

[SeanMc]

**** i wasn't even aware that we hit 300whp NA yet

Isn't RJ92 around that now? Last I heard from him, he's running 18:1 compression in a 3.2L running race gas.

 

[somedude_001]

Isn't RJ92 around that now? Last I heard from him, he's running 18:1 compression in a 3.2L running race gas.

what! he lives local to me, he is on stock bottom end, stock compression, cams, headwork, intake, TB, maf, rough tune and roughly 260whp + a hefty shot of spray that makes his car about the same speed as mine.

 

[HotRodKid]

what alex said ...

rj is making 260whp + a hundred shot

heard it straight from the horses mouth about an hour ago as i helped him do plugs, oil, and pull the knuckle so he can get the bearing replaced

edit: and the car is definantly running rich, all 6 plugs have a good coating of carbon on them, and the 2 plugs nearest the throttle body are running JUST hot enough to clean the carbon off about 1/2 of the electrode, so theres still more left in the tune

edit 2: and we had an in depth conversation about intakes and headers, him and I are very much on the same page about both topics. im going to have to start whipping up one of my intakes for him

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

I am going to politely disagree. Easy is not the word to describe what it takes to get 500 (even 400) hp from a 3.3L engine NA.

ok my bad i knew i shouldnt of used the word Easy but it can be done and has been done. its all a matter of how much time and effort you ant to put into the thing.... i dunno the specs on the 500hp NA sho motor that i know of...... all i know is its carbed and in a salt flats car.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Isn't RJ92 around that now? Last I heard from him, he's running 18:1 compression in a 3.2L running race gas.

18:1 c/r=diesel! thats just crazy talk there boi would be interesting to see what it would do on gas tho. if it dont blow up that is hehe.

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

**** i wasn't even aware that we hit 300whp NA yet

sho shop if im not mistaken has a build up on how to get 300whp NA.

 

[DemonNeno]

sho shop if im not mistaken has a build up on how to get 300whp NA.

SHO shop built a 300whp NA SHO?! I never knew that... Ohh, was it the almighty 3.6??

 

[SHOspazz92]

sho shop if im not mistaken has a build up on how to get 300whp NA.

Oohhhhh nooooo waaaaaay.

-Sam

 

[Mike Kopstain]

11's with a stock weight sho... na? Very posible.. do you not know of the 500+hp na Sho motor? tahts used in a salt flats car?? im not trying to down what you know or what ever i just wanted to point out that anythings posible, its just alot harder to hit the higher numbers with out a power adder... but lets say u do a 3.3L ultra high comp motor fully ported everything 13.5:1 com ratio, built and balenced inturnals to rev to lets say 10k rpms.... 500-600hp is easy But very pricey to be had in a motor that small... but it Can and has been done... maybe not the 1/4 mile times na in a sho but it has been shown that the sho motor CAN make sick hp numbers NA its just alotta work and alotta money to get it there and keep it there with out nukeing the thing. thats just my 2 cents... no offence ment at all here dude i respect what you know and all your work.

Bob, it's just not happening buddy. The Salt flat car is built for top speed which means it's low end suffers. You can kick up the redline, shorten the stroke, and raise compression, and all you're going to end up with is a car that makes a lot of horsepower on paper but that's nominally faster than it's stock engined, cammed equivalent.

You guys just need to do what we do with the 3800s, skip the built blocks. You typically end up blowing them and then they cost you a lot of money. Run junkyard blocks and call it a day. Cams and an intercooled turbo are all you need. Kick in a set of slicks, skinnies, and a limiter for the rear suspension and you can have the car in the 11's. It's better to do it with an ATX though.

Speaking of the ATX, keep shift times slower and line pressure down. You'd rather smoke some clutches than break hard parts.

 

[AREA 91]

A dyno proven 257 Wheel Horse Power natrually asperated for the Green Bastard.

 

[SeanMc]

what alex said ...

rj is making 260whp + a hundred shot

heard it straight from the horses mouth about an hour ago as i helped him do plugs, oil, and pull the knuckle so he can get the bearing replaced

edit: and the car is definantly running rich, all 6 plugs have a good coating of carbon on them, and the 2 plugs nearest the throttle body are running JUST hot enough to clean the carbon off about 1/2 of the electrode, so theres still more left in the tune

edit 2: and we had an in depth conversation about intakes and headers, him and I are very much on the same page about both topics. im going to have to start whipping up one of my intakes for him

Maybe it was someone else. Someone here is that high of compression and can only burn race gas.

 

[HotRodKid]

im going to have to start whipping up one of my intakes for him

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand project started ... YAY !

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

SHO shop built a 300whp NA SHO?! I never knew that... Ohh, was it the almighty 3.6??

nope 3.0 or 3.2. they have a "build up" for 300hp NA

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

Bob, it's just not happening buddy. The Salt flat car is built for top speed which means it's low end suffers. You can kick up the redline, shorten the stroke, and raise compression, and all you're going to end up with is a car that makes a lot of horsepower on paper but that's nominally faster than it's stock engined, cammed equivalent.

You guys just need to do what we do with the 3800s, skip the built blocks. You typically end up blowing them and then they cost you a lot of money. Run junkyard blocks and call it a day. Cams and an intercooled turbo are all you need. Kick in a set of slicks, skinnies, and a limiter for the rear suspension and you can have the car in the 11's. It's better to do it with an ATX though.

Speaking of the ATX, keep shift times slower and line pressure down. You'd rather smoke some clutches than break hard parts.

Yes Exactly, the rpms would have to be really high to make 500hp with a 3.0 but as you just said it is posible i didnt say it would have any low end power at all.. i just said it would have the hp numbers. na power on a small motor isnt much fun cuz they do suffer on the low end where its needed for a street car. and hence why i went turbo

 

[TT SHO PROJECT]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand project started ... YAY !

w00t! keep up the good work man.