Anyone try this type of Amsoil

[yaycandy]

My local store has about everything amsoil makes and i seen this. Anyone on here run this before and is it anybetter than their signature that im used to running. Is a little cheaper also. Looks like its for gdi turbo applications as it says about on back of bottle in person. Thanks

 

[SHOdded]

You have their middle tier pic pictured, as you can see if you go to their website.

Signature is the only level I personally would run.

Signature > XL > OEM

 

[yaycandy]

You have their middle tier pic pictured, as you can see if you go to their website.

Signature is the only level I personally would run.

Signature > XL > OEM

Ahh ok, thats why its cheaper. I just didnt know if it was better than their signature series, for ecoboost. Ill just stick with signature series. I actually never ran signature series in sho, usually motorcraft or mobil 1 full syn. Ill give amsoil signature a try

 

[Auggie]

The Wife had the oil changed in the SHO and they installed CAM2 engine oil. Anyone tried this oil and is it OK for the SHO ??

 

[yaycandy]

Many studies have shown that Castrol Edge Titanium is the best oil for 3.5l ecoboost. I have posting on another forum about cylinder missfire. I have not tried cam2 though. Amsoil signature ranks second. Even on amsoils own multi brand testing. Castrol could be had for 30-40$ a walmart for 6quarts and amsoil is usually around 60-70$ for an oil change. Id run the amsoil but in a pinch id run castrol. As i usually run castrol or royal purple in my other engines with no issues for edge titanium.
I actually only ran mobil 1 full syn in my sho, but i was pushing 10k miles on the oil and running the engine hard. Probably is part of the reason my original 015 engine blew at 72k miles. On my 13 sho and 15 sho with a new engine i only run amsoil with 2500-3000 mile oil changes. Oil comes out still looking like oil as with 10k mile changes on mobil one it would look like black water

 

[yaycandy]

The Wife had the oil changed in the SHO and they installed CAM2 engine oil. Anyone tried this oil and is it OK for the SHO ??

I would install a catch can. Mobil 1, castrol and amsoil are the only ones i know of that passed the honda hot tube certification for turbo gdi engines. I forget what the code is but i dont think i saw it on the back of the cam2 bottle.
Oh Honda HTO-06. You can read about it. Helps prevent oil break down in turbos to help it not get to the intake valves bad. Not to sure exactly. I havent read about it in a while.
There may even be a better oil science and certifications out now then there was 2 years ago when i was learning but most gdi engines have port injection also like the new ecoboosts and most toyota gdi engines. Id just run a catch can to see how much is slipping past. I get more in the catchcan from amsoil than i did mobil 1. So i dont know if that means anything or if its just randomly catching more or being a new engine

 

[SM105K]

Many studies have shown that Castrol Edge Titanium is the best oil for 3.5l ecoboost. I have posting on another forum about cylinder missfire. I have not tried cam2 though. Amsoil signature ranks second. Even on amsoils own multi brand testing. Castrol could be had for 30-40$ a walmart for 6quarts and amsoil is usually around 60-70$ for an oil change. Id run the amsoil but in a pinch id run castrol. As i usually run castrol or royal purple in my other engines with no issues for edge titanium.
I actually only ran mobil 1 full syn in my sho, but i was pushing 10k miles on the oil and running the engine hard. Probably is part of the reason my original 015 engine blew at 72k miles. On my 13 sho and 15 sho with a new engine i only run amsoil with 2500-3000 mile oil changes. Oil comes out still looking like oil as with 10k mile changes on mobil one it would look like black water

I just switched to Castrol Edge in my ST. My SHO has 200 miles before its next oil change and will get Castrol Edge as well.

 

[yaycandy]

I just switched to Castrol Edge in my ST. My SHO has 200 miles before its next oil change and will get Castrol Edge as well.

It is cheap at wallyworld. I use it in my gm l35 4.3l. Got a new engine 10 years ago in my travel van. Oil change with ac delco filter and castrol edge titanium. Got 228k on it now. Yea i been all over usa and canada with it many times since. Tore engine apart. Looked as good as when i ordered the short block and assembled it. That oil got my respect and i slam gears high rpm in it all the time

 

[SM105K]

It is cheap at wallyworld. I use it in my gm l35 4.3l. Got a new engine 10 years ago in my travel van. Oil change with ac delco filter and castrol edge titanium. Got 228k on it now. Yea i been all over usa and canada with it many times since. Tore engine apart. Looked as good as when i ordered the short block and assembled it. That oil got my respect and i slam gears high rpm in it all the time

Yeah I did a bunch of research as well into Castrol (Thanks Shodded) and jumped. Good thing is I have a baseline with Mobil 1 so it will be interesting to see difference between the two. I am going to get a oil report on this oil change (Mobil 1), and another one after the first Castrol one.

 

[joe raptor]

I did and now I'm using Red Line !! Great oil !!

 

[yaycandy]

I did and now I'm using Red Line !! Great oil !!

Great oil but bad on gdi deposits and pcv system and blowby.

 

[joe raptor]

^^ where did you get this info that say that??, about the Red Line engine oil ? specifics ??

 

[yaycandy]

^^ where did you get this info that say that??, about the Red Line engine oil ? specifics ??

Much testing has been done on about every engine oil since gdi has been out. Many companys trying to find the best oil for gdi. Our engines happen to prefer amsoil signature or castrol full syn. What year is it? Like 2008, not hard to google gdi oil testing

 

[SM105K]

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9923.0.html

Here is a good place to start with research.

 

[yaycandy]

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9923.0.html

Here is a good place to start with research.

I never really understood timeframe on oil changes. Miles makes since but months. So if its new oil and its in the car for 3 months and the car was never ran. The oil is recommended to be changed? I understand if there is gas and crud in an old engine. What about oil shelf life. A new bottle of oil could have been bottled 3 years ago or on a shelf for 2 years. I overthink things most of the time

 

[yaycandy]

So my bottle of valvoline from 1989 in my garage thats never been opened is no good? Aint the oil in the earth no good because its been down there for too long. Refinery aint making the oil new

 

[SM105K]

I never really understood timeframe on oil changes. Miles makes since but months. So if its new oil and its in the car for 3 months and the car was never ran. The oil is recommended to be changed? I understand if there is gas and crud in an old engine. What about oil shelf life. A new bottle of oil could have been bottled 3 years ago or on a shelf for 2 years. I overthink things most of the time

I don't like oil sitting in any motor for extended periods of time without being run. Oil becomes acidic when sitting in engine parts. That can start doing goofy things to the oil and engine. Especially if you have fuel in the oil. Typically I change my oil in my all of my vehicles every 3k miles or 3 months. In the ST is it 3k, in the SHO it is 3 months because it rarely sees 3k miles in a 3 month period. I use the trip "2" setting for the my oil mileage.

 

[SaveMelMac]

The time period on oil changes comes from the condensation build up and fuel dilution on short trips if you don’t hit the mileage first the car manufacturers are assuming you are doing short trips around town. A bottle of oil isn’t going to go bad in x amount of months just sitting, a bottle from 1989 on the other hand might be ok, I would only try to run it in my lawnmower lol.

 

[SHOdded]

Typical shelf life of engine oil when stored properly can be 5-7 years. Additives may drop out of suspension tho, so it is always a good idea for the container to be shaken thoroughly before the oil is poured out.

If the oil in the engine is fresh, engine has not been run, it can possibly survive a few months undiminished. These are "storage" conditions, such as when a vehicle is put away for the winter. I have not seen any objective testing tho for to prove it out. It makes sense to me, since the oil has never been stressed, but remember there is always a small fraction of old oil remaining in the engine. Contaminants will be greatly diluted, but still present.

When you put a car away for a prolonged period, not only fresh oil, but a fresh prefilled filter should be added. Then before restart, add a drop or two of fresh oil to each cylinder to lubricate the rings. These requiremets are old but gold.

 

[Johnbigdog]

So my bottle of valvoline from 1989 in my garage thats never been opened is no good? Aint the oil in the earth no good because its been down there for too long. Refinery aint making the oil new

The oil you have from 89 is good, becuase it hasn't been contaminated. I dont have a good way to tell you how to account for breakdown of all the additives from time due to contaminants.

However the oil you have from 89 probably doesn't meet the API spec for our engine at this time. Usually specs are backwards compatible but not forward. What the specific differences are I dont know either.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm