Stock Seats vs Racing seats.

[CplPflummUSMC]

I am looking at a set of racing seats off of ebay that get good reviews and weigh in at 33lbs per seat. Is this a substanial weight savings over stock. I have searched and haven't been able to get any solid numbers of what a Gen II front seat weighs in at. Thanks again for all the help.

 

[jayro]

I didnt weigh mine when I took them out, but from the research I had done they were said to weigh between 45-55 lbs each. Are the racing seats 33lbs a piece, or for both front? If they r 33lbs a piece I would keep looking around.....that sounds pretty heavy. I got mine from Summit Racing and they are 12-15 lbs a piece. They are just the cheap summit brand poly ones with seat covers.

Jeremy

 

[zak]

I was disappointed at the weight savings when swapping in one of the lightest reclinable seats avialable. Think I shaved 17 pounds off of the drivers side, but 10 of that was eliminating the power seat track, something you can already do through careful boneyard shopping for a manual track.

The bracket I used was a little heavy, so maybe with the right bracket the savings would be a couple pounds higher.

A racing shell would certainly be lighter than the reclinable seat I used.

 

[-DVP-]

Not worth the weight unless you swap to manual tracks too.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I always thought the stock seats were around 55-60lbs. I replaced mine with Corbeau CR1's and IIRC, they are 22lbs a seat. They're much more comfortable and they hold me in much better (and they're not leather).

 

[zak]

The CR1 is 27 pounds, which is in fact light for a reclinable seat, see this place:
http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pr...-Micro-Suede-Racing-Seats---Wide-Version.html

I do not think that 27 pounds includes the slider and bracket, which both add weight. I've got my weights written down somewhere will try to post them tonight.

 

[greengiant]

i think they weight about what yahamasho said (or alittle more), i took my seats out to clean the carpet in my car last week and i just about threw my back out jockying them out the doors

 

[1993MTXSHO]

When I weighed my manual passenger seat it was 45 lbs, and my full power drivers was 62.

 

[CplPflummUSMC]

Well both my front seats are full power so does that mean that they are 62lbs then apiece? I have seen the 45-55lb number which mens for the ~$300 it isn't a real big savings at 33lbs. These seats are reclinable so I assume that they are heavier than non-reclinable. There is a pair of non-reclinables for roughgly the same price that are reviewed well also, but I am worried about the comfort for a DD, but if they are ~25lbs a piece then the savings would be much more appreciable. Anyone got exprecince with a non-reclinable seat in a DD? Thanks a agian for the help. Based on this post I will be ordering these seats in the next day or so and begin the swap to a black interior. Thanks again for the info.

 

[zak]

When I weighed my manual passenger seat it was 45 lbs, and my full power drivers was 62.

Which year?

 

[gmorrell]

When I weighed my manual passenger seat it was 45 lbs, and my full power drivers was 62.

That's about what I remember from my Gen 1 power and manual front seats.

Reclining aftermarket seats - decent, safe seats that you can sit in for a few hours, are going to be high 20's to low 30's for poundage, plus your stock seat mounts and sliders, or you may have to convert to an aftermarket seat mount and sliders, so add some more weight to account for that. Aftermarket mounts and sliders are going to add 6 to 8 pounds to the total weight per seat.

A good fixed back racing bucket in fiberglass or kevlar will be in the 15 to 17 pound range, plus mounts and sliders, figure mid 20's for poundage when it's all done.

If you can have a fixed back seat with simple fixed racing seat mounting brackets tied directly to the floor, you can keep the whole mess at 20 pounds, but it's going to be spendy; $700 or more per seat, and not very flexible for drivers besides yourself.

Here's some custom bracketry and sliders I fabricated to put Cobra Kevlar fixed back Suzukas in my SVO Mustang. Trust me, this weren't cheap, near $1K per seat when all was said and done, but the Suzukas are some damn comfortable and supportive seats, and they're FIA approved.

Raw Adapters__________Finished Adapters_________Finished bracket_________Seats in car


eBay seats, uugh... A lot of that stuff is ricer garbage: Steel tube frame seats made in China, questionable welding, no testing, no certification, no FIA testing or approval - Buyer beware, do your homework, and make sure you're getting something that will give you the same or higher degree of protection as the OEM seats if you get in an accident. The swoopiest seats on The Planet aren't worth a crap if in an accident they tear loose and make you the meat in a seat-steering wheel sandwich.

Are you getting seat bases and sliders with these seats? Guaranteed to fit the Taurus floor pan? If not, be prepared to embark on a fabrication adventure.

Honestly, I wouldn't buy a race seat that I couldn't sit in for awhile before I bought it, but that's me.

 

[Sho Amo]

Is there a place you recommend to go for an all black recliner seat that fits a skinny guy? Ive heard the cr1 fits smaller guys pretty well.

 

[zak]

SHOamo, I would recommend finding a used Recaro SRD as they fit skinny guys well, at 6 foot 172 lbs its snug on me (need to taper off on leg presses in the gym). I thought I had heard that they were FIA approved but have never been able to find the reference.

Here are my weights from my 95 MTX:

Stock drivers seat including all motors, brackets, everything from the floor up = 57.8 lb.

Recaro SRD in cloth with "tabbed" type slider = 34.0 lbs (bet the Corbeau above does not have a slider in its 27 lb weight).
Wedge Engineering bracket with extra set of mounting tubes welded on by SHOaz to accommodate a Sparco = 9.2 lbs
TOTAL higher end reclinable Recaro + bracket = 43.2 lbs.

Savings over stock 57.8-43.2 = 14.6 lbs. Figure the mod SHOaz made added a couple of pounds, so 17 lb weight savings over stock is realistic. I may reweigh the 95 drivers seat at some point (hard to do on a bathroom scale, used a tare'd piece of plywood until it became repeatable)

 

[CplPflummUSMC]

I no the proabition about linking to ebay, but it is just for refrence as it isn't my auction nor will I profit from there sale. These are the seats I am considering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0501365389&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

[yamahaSHO]

I'll be sure to weigh my seat and bracket whan I have them out next. I know they felt lighter (assembled with bracket) than the stock seats, but I never weighed them. I wanted a more comfortable seat that held me in better and was not leather.

 

[wingtip80]

Is there a place you recommend to go for an all black recliner seat that fits a skinny guy? Ive heard the cr1 fits smaller guys pretty well.

No eat a cheese steak

 

[1993MTXSHO]

Which year?

This was from my 93.

 

[Sho Amo]

No eat a cheese steak

funny you should say that as its my favorite meal I cant gain weight if you payed me.

 

[CplPflummUSMC]

Just helped a buddy put racing buckets in his 92 so got a chance to actually weigh the driver seat. I came in at 181 by myself and the scale hit 241 with the seat. So a power driver side seats weighs in the neighborhood of 60lbs. I will try and picture of the before and after weight with the scale so that there is a photo of that on the forum. by the way if you get your hands on a set of SLO manual tracks and cut 1 1/2 inches out of them they will give you the same seat height with only about +.5inch. My buddy couldn't even get in the car with tracks uncut. Then we cut and welded them back up and he fit fine. Said they are working great as he has been driving the car over the past week.

 

[SHOspazz92]

The Corbeau Taurus Brackets are easily under 10 pounds. I would go with a Corbeau FX1 or the CR1.

Finding a used SRD seat is going to be a task and Brand new they are nearly 700 bucks a seat. For that price you can get two very nice Corbeau seats.

-Sam