Finally got to sit in a 2010 SHO......(very long)

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OSU 4 SHO

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I walk into my local Ford dealer and off to the right sits a new Taurus. I didn't know it was a SHO until half way through the interior analyzing. It was black exterior, and black/black leather/suede interior. I immediately sat inside without looking much at the exterior. Just for reference I am 6'6" and 340lbs. Here are some of my thoughts:

1. With a sunroof, I had enough headroom to fit comfortably

2. I had enough shoulder room (B pillars usually destroy my comfort level in sedans)

3. Leg room was inexplicably small. There is absolutely NO reason for the seat not to go back farther. None. This translated into making an overall comfortable cabin, uncomfortable, because my legs were bent too much and I felt like I was in a MUCH smaller can than it really is. I have no doubt it could be modified to work, but when the seats in a VW Rabbit/Jetta/GTI etc go back MORE than enough for me, its inexcusable for a very large car not to have ample leg room. There was at least 5" of vacant space after all of my seat adjustments got me into a comfy position, so its not physical room. Some idiot said, yup, thats enough travel, lets limit the potential buyers over something as stupid as not letting the seat go back 2 more inches. Its very frustrating when this happens, there is no excuse.

4. The seat back was extremely comfortable, very wide seats up by the shoulders (common area where seats curve in for shorter people that makes most seats uncomfortable for tall people. The lumbar was very nice, just a very firm, supportive seat back. However it didn't translate into a quality bottom seat. The bottom or butt part was very small, and very flat. It was way too short, and offered very little support.

5. The dashboard and cabin layout looked very nice. At least as nice as my VW GTI with regards to materials and fit and finish (yes, I said it). I can not agree with the materials rivaling Lexus and Audi though. While the look of them might, the touch and feel does not. In an Audi, when you push on the plastics, they don't squeek (experience from a 2001 S4, 2005 S4 and 2006 A4, about 10 total years with those 3 cars), they don't push in, and they don't feel as cheap. When I pushed and felt the various parts of the cabin, some were solid, some pushed in a bit and some squeaked. If an Audi is a 10, the new Taurus is a 8. (very good in my opinion, a pleasant surprise to say the least)

6. I didn't particularly care for all of the doors used on the console. There were 4 I think. It just made the interior a bit too busy and "corny." While some may argue it looks better, I personally do not think it does. I like my cup holders visible, and doors are prone to breaking after extended use. Also felt that some of the buttons were hard to reach, and in unintuitive locations. The ergonomics of the console as a whole was not nearly as thoughtfully laid out as VW or Audi's usually are (I do understand the new A6 had issues with this very same thing).

6.5. With all of that said, I sat in a Fusion Sport after it and it was remarkable how nice it made the Taurus look and feel. Wow was it bad, shockingly bad. It made the Taurus feel like a Bentley.

7. The back seats were surprisingly big, however they didn't have enough head room for me. My GTI does, but its a hatchback with a squared off rear end. I can see why the ass end of the Taurus is so high, the rear seats are elevated from the fronts, which was unusual.

8. The paddle shifters were laughably ugly and very large. I have mentioned it before that I hate the push button style shifters, and I still do.

9. The doors shut with a solid thunk, and the trunk used the quality hinges that don't take up any trunk space (something the new A4 stopped doing). One thing I did notice though is the part of the front door on the side of the window where the vertical trim piece is that covers up 1/2 of the B pillar was VERY flimsy. The windows were down and when I got out of the car, I grabbed the door around that pillar to shut it and the trim piece pulled away a bit, and made a cracking noise lol. Needless to say I thought I ripped the damn thing off. The other side wasn't nearly as flimsy, but I could definitely see that being an issue down the road.

10. A few small changes and the car would be almost perfect. Let the front seat travel about 2" farther. Change the paddle shifters to a more integrated design like in the DSG equipped GTI's. I could live with the numerous doors on the console and the ergonomic issues if those 2 things were fixed. If I nit pick even more, I would ask for a 3 spoke steering wheel and door sills that say SHO instead of Taurus.

Overall I give the interior a 7/10 (8/10 if the seats went back far enough and a 8.5 if they added a 3 spoke wheel with DSG style paddle shifters).

The car had the 402A pack I think, navigation and something small for a sticker of 42,500 ish.

I didn't drive it because it was their only one, and it was in the showroom, and since I am not going to buy one. In a few months when they are numerous on the lots, I will drive one.

Thanks for reading, sorry it was so long. :omgsho:
 

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Some idiot said, yup, thats enough travel, lets limit the potential buyers over something as stupid as not letting the seat go back 2 more inches. Its very frustrating when this happens, there is no excuse.
According to a Ford engineer, the rearward seat travel is restricted to protect you in a crash--in the event of a crash, if you're behind the B-pillar (where the belt is mounted) you'll be going forward before the seat belt even has a chance to catch you.

FWIW, he was not specifically discussing the SHO, but it still applies.
 

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Steering wheel and paddle shifters that I like:

Those do look better than the photos I have seen of those in the new SHO.

The distance back for the driving position is a bit of a concern as I like to drive as close to straight arm as possible. But I am only 6'3", so maybe it will not be as bad for me. Hopefully. I am still waiting for one to show up here. Grrrrr.....

pax, smn
 

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That was a great write up OSU 4 SHO. Sucks you couldn't drive it though. You would have been pleased with it. I know I was. But, you have a perfect arguement over the seating arrangement. I had no quarrels with the three I drove, nor did I have an issue with any of the Limiteds/SELs I was in months ago. And you would think that the engineers would have designed a seat that accomodates average sized folks and larger size folks. Especially with this car now taking over Ford's full size car line up spot. Only time will tell I guess. Speaking of time, this waiting on my car to be built really sux!! :frown:
 

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Those do look better than the photos I have seen of those in the new SHO.

The distance back for the driving position is a bit of a concern as I like to drive as close to straight arm as possible. But I am only 6'3", so maybe it will not be as bad for me. Hopefully. I am still waiting for one to show up here. Grrrrr.....

pax, smn

It wasn't so much the steering wheel being too close, it was my lower body that felt constrained. I am sure you will be able to find a comfortable position because like I said, it was only about 2" of seat travel for me to be 100% comfy.

Yay for being 5'10", 180lbs! Yay "average man"!

haha no joke. Car shopping is one of the few times I absolutely HATE being huge. lol It is crazy how many cars I will never be able to experience because of just my height.
It's ok, brag midgets, brag.

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That was a great write up OSU 4 SHO. Sucks you couldn't drive it though. You would have been pleased with it. I know I was. But, you have a perfect arguement over the seating arrangement. I had no quarrels with the three I drove, nor did I have an issue with any of the Limiteds/SELs I was in months ago. And you would think that the engineers would have designed a seat that accomodates average sized folks and larger size folks. Especially with this car now taking over Ford's full size car line up spot. Only time will tell I guess. Speaking of time, this waiting on my car to be built really sux!! :frown:

I probably could have, but I am in no hurry and not a serious customer. I didn't feel right making them do all of that work for what amounts to a joy ride.

I was pleasantly surprised with the car to say the least.
 

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I'm 6'1" 260lbs and fit ok in the new SHO. The shifters are really stupid, but the trunk has alot of room, and as stated above, the hinges dont occupy any extra room.
 

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I'm 6'1" 260lbs and fit ok in the new SHO. The shifters are really stupid, but the trunk has alot of room, and as stated above, the hinges dont occupy any extra room.

A large trunk is a big thing. (pun intended) I still carry around all the sailing gear to go out at the drop of a hat, winter or summer, in either a Star or a Byte, including the rolled up sail for the Byte stuck through the trunk and along a folded down seat to the front seat center console. Its a lot of stuff, and one of the things that the Gen III has been spectacular for.

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Maybe there is a plastic device on the seat track that restricts the rear movement like in the V8 SHO. Tim Wright is the one that told me that you could get about another inch if you just cut down that plug like thing that was over the track mechanism. I left in about 1/3" in case it was needed as a buffer?

One other thing that nobody, not any of the magazines, only me so far, has noticed (that I have read anyway) is that the door bottoms on the new Taurus (and SHO) cover the rocker panels, thus the rockers stay clean. Meaning when you get out on a sloppy winter day your pants don't get dirty. This is something that I first saw on Saabs in the 70's. It was one of their big features.

I love that Ford adopted it for this car. Look the next time you see one. It is a neat feature.
 

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Maybe there is a plastic device on the seat track that restricts the rear movement like in the V8 SHO. Tim Wright is the one that told me that you could get about another inch if you just cut down that plug like thing that was over the track mechanism. I left in about 1/3" in case it was needed as a buffer?

So... what do V8 SHOs and 6-round shotguns have in common?
 

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You know, I've said it before and I'll say is yet AGAIN. Until you actually see this car in person, check it out, sit in it.... oh waitaminute :doh:

Nice write up. Being one of those "midgets" I didn't pick up on the legroom bit, but if it was done--like the headrests--in the name of safety, I'm really starting to wonder why other companies seem to still find the comfort while conforming to safety, yet Ford is struggling :shrug:

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I'm 6'1" 260lbs and fit ok in the new SHO. The shifters are really stupid, but the trunk has alot of room, and as stated above, the hinges dont occupy any extra room.

I forgot to mention how big the trunk was. It was a freaking cave. Very big.

A large trunk is a big thing. (pun intended) I still carry around all the sailing gear to go out at the drop of a hat, winter or summer, in either a Star or a Byte, including the rolled up sail for the Byte stuck through the trunk and along a folded down seat to the front seat center console. Its a lot of stuff, and one of the things that the Gen III has been spectacular for.

pax, smn


You will have no problem with the new one then. How tall the trunk is was the thing that stood out the most. Very large trunk. Not comletely flat, but large.

Maybe there is a plastic device on the seat track that restricts the rear movement like in the V8 SHO. Tim Wright is the one that told me that you could get about another inch if you just cut down that plug like thing that was over the track mechanism. I left in about 1/3" in case it was needed as a buffer?


That would be nice if it was something that easy. I doubt it though.

You know, I've said it before and I'll say is yet AGAIN. Until you actually see this car in person, check it out, sit in it.... oh waitaminute :doh:

Nice write up. Being one of those "midgets" I didn't pick up on the legroom bit, but if it was done--like the headrests--in the name of safety, I'm really starting to wonder why other companies seem to still find the comfort while conforming to safety, yet Ford is struggling :shrug:

:thumb:

Exactly what I was going to say. Its not like it can't be done, its them just not doing it. There are much smaller 4dr cars that provide ample legroom with seat belts mounted on the B Pillar. 3 series, Jetta etc.

PS. The brakes looked tiny behind even the standard SHO wheels.
 
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Correct me if I missread the litterature on FORDs web. Pretty sure I read the SHO has adjustable pedals.

Did you ensure that the adjustable pedals were ran all the way to the fire wall.
 

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I give, what?

pax, smn

PS: and I own both... ;)

The shotguns have magazine plugs that can be modified/removed to enable the shotgun to hold 8 rounds (as long as the tube is physically long enough...) and apparently the V8 SHOs have much the same concept for the seats.
 

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Correct me if I missread the litterature on FORDs web. Pretty sure I read the SHO has adjustable pedals.

Did you ensure that the adjustable pedals were ran all the way to the fire wall.

Yes, they were all the way back. And that has nothing to do with how far the seat extends back. My knees were about 0.5-1.0 inches away from the dash, and my knees were bent too much for comfort. Especially for a car as big as the new SHO is.
 

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