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Northwestvoodoo

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Yep. Blind sheep being led to slaughter. The history oft he planet proves that Earth goes through drastic climate changes
So many paths, so many sheep. And the NWO shepherds have down to a T.

Yes the earth has gone through massive temp changes in the past and will in the future. You are correct Sir. However, we have pumped a lot of crap in to the atmosphere. To what degree has this effected our climate change? I don't know. Nether does anyone else.
Is the planet warming up? Yes it is. We cant deny that anymore. If anyone is in doubt, look at some satellite pictures from years ago to today. You cant miss the difference.
Being Canadian, we are intimately connected to ice. We noticed we have less of it theses days. In fact, Arctic passages that could not be navigated during winter 20 years ago are now open all year round. Russia has noticed this too. They are presently interested in laying claim to a lot of frozen patches that they never claimed or cared about before.
As you will recall. Sarah Palin can see the vodka swillers from her portch. With the warmer weather coming, I bet they are ****** they sold Alaska to you guys. Score!!!

OK, rant over now.
 

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So many paths, so many sheep. And the NWO shepherds have down to a T.

Yes the earth has gone through massive temp changes in the past and will in the future. You are correct Sir. However, we have pumped a lot of crap in to the atmosphere. To what degree has this effected our climate change? I don't know. Nether does anyone else.
Is the planet warming up? Yes it is. We cant deny that anymore. If anyone is in doubt, look at some satellite pictures from years ago to today. You cant miss the difference.
Being Canadian, we are intimately connected to ice. We noticed we have less of it theses days. In fact, Arctic passages that could not be navigated during winter 20 years ago are now open all year round. Russia has noticed this too. They are presently interested in laying claim to a lot of frozen patches that they never claimed or cared about before.
As you will recall. Sarah Palin can see the vodka swillers from her portch. With the warmer weather coming, I bet they are ****** they sold Alaska to you guys. Score!!!

OK, rant over now.

I am not going to get into a Global warming debate .... in the 70's wasn't it Global cooling? As the forum is not the place.

But, I really wish people would stop with this. Sarah Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house". That was Tina Fey. On Saturday Night Live. Doing a parody of Sarah Palin. Unless your source of new is a comedy sketch show
 

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I am not going to get into a Global warming debate .... in the 70's wasn't it Global cooling? As the forum is not the place.

But, I really wish people would stop with this. Sarah Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house". That was Tina Fey. On Saturday Night Live. Doing a parody of Sarah Palin. Unless your source of new is a comedy sketch show

:wave:My post was in no way a attack on your views. Nor do I have any intentions on debating weather changes on this or any other forum. Regarding the Palin comment. That was some poor humor that didn't go over well. It was suppose to be a comedic ending to my post. I see it failed. Sorry.
Lastly, I view most "news" as a comedy sketch.
Everybody take a breath now.....
 

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So many paths, so many sheep. And the NWO shepherds have down to a T.

Yes the earth has gone through massive temp changes in the past and will in the future. You are correct Sir. However, we have pumped a lot of crap in to the atmosphere. To what degree has this effected our climate change? I don't know. Nether does anyone else.
Is the planet warming up? Yes it is. We cant deny that anymore. If anyone is in doubt, look at some satellite pictures from years ago to today. You cant miss the difference.
Being Canadian, we are intimately connected to ice. We noticed we have less of it theses days. In fact, Arctic passages that could not be navigated during winter 20 years ago are now open all year round. Russia has noticed this too. They are presently interested in laying claim to a lot of frozen patches that they never claimed or cared about before.
As you will recall. Sarah Palin can see the vodka swillers from her portch. With the warmer weather coming, I bet they are ****** they sold Alaska to you guys. Score!!!

OK, rant over now.

this might come as a shock.. but the earth is billions of years older than we are.. do you seriously think we has humans can plot the course of the earth having spent so little time on it?


the earth will cycle as it always has. and will keep doing so long after humans are gone.

as for debating

its human to disagree..
keeping it civil. thats the hard part.
 
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this might come as a shock.. but the earth is billions of years older than we are.. do you seriously think we has humans can plot the course of the earth having spent so little time on it?


the earth will cycle as it always has. and will keep doing so long after humans are gone.

as for debating

its human to disagree..
keeping it civil. thats the hard part.

"Yes the earth has gone through massive temp changes in the past and will in the future. You are correct Sir. However, we have pumped a lot of crap in to the atmosphere. To what degree has this effected our climate change? I don't know. Nether does anyone else."

the earth will cycle as it always has. and will keep doing so long after humans are gone.
Are not these comments similar?

do you seriously think we has humans can plot the course of the earth having spent so little time on it?
No. Cant plot the course of the earth.
 

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"Yes the earth has gone through massive temp changes in the past and will in the future. You are correct Sir. However, we have pumped a lot of crap in to the atmosphere. To what degree has this effected our climate change? I don't know. Nether does anyone else."

Are not these comments similar?

No. Cant plot the course of the earth.

forgive..

that was the stlsr in me.
 

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OK, my one reply to this...

Has everyone convieniently neglected the fact that the sun has been in an active cycle the last few years?

I wonder where we get our heat???:angelnot:

Ok, I'm done.

And summer needs to get here... This COLD winter has gotten everybody Crabby from cabin fever...We own (or have owned) one of the most fun, infuriating, and enjoyable cars made. Lets have fun!!!
(looking for the Rodney King sound byte):sun:

:munch:
 

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I don't see anything in those articles (nor any other article ever written) that proves that there is a correlation between ice melting and human activity, and that's my entire issue with "climate change" -- nobody has proven to anything close to a scientific certainty that anything we humans are doing or not doing has the slightest impact on the climate. It's all theoretical conjecture, hypothesis, and assumption. The ice is melting is a credible fact, but the theories and assumptions behind why the ice is melting are not. Just because a number of scientists have elected to agree on a theory despite the lack of proof doesn't make it true. The vast majority of the scientific community once elected to agree that the earth was flat; until they were proven wrong.

We are told we must simply have "faith" that the scientists are right. It's akin to religious fervor. We are presented with circumstantial evidence, with no actual proof to back it up. We are told that if we don't act immediately that we are all doomed; we can't wait for proof as then it will be too late. Sadly, "climate change" has become a cottage industry where various groups are fighting for money, and once money is involved it clouds their motives and makes any of their "conclusions" suspect. There are also substantial portions of the world's population that envy or dislike the way others live their lives, and they have gotten on the "climate change" bandwagon as a simple means to an end to manipulate and control how those people live their lives.

For the record, I (along with probably 99.9% of others who are skeptical about human beings having the slightest impact on the planet's climate) do not support pollution, dirty water, or anything of the sort. I don't dispute that the ice is melting, but I do dispute the conclusion that it is melting because of human activity and not because of a natural climatic cycle. I love the great outdoors and enjoy fresh air and clean water, but I'm not going to blindly sacrifice my way of life simply because a group of scientists (even if it was a majority) told me I had to without any sound science to back them up.

It's the ultimate in arrogance to think that human beings have influence over the earth's climate or worse that it can be controlled. If the same conclusions of the "climate change" proponents were applied to earthquakes or volcanoes or solar activity it would be immediately dismissed as nonsense, but because everyone wants clean air and clean water many have been "guilted" into blindly accepting these theories.

I am an eternal optimist. I truly believe that necessity is the mother of invention, and that every day that goes by brings us closer to the ideal of living the best life possible. If you look at the quality of life that we live today compared to our parents, grandparents, and so on, it only keeps getting better. Countless technological advancements have abounded without any underlying fear or panic forcing their invention. I am confident that we will reach a point of advancement where things like pollution are no longer an issue, that our technology and intelligence will adapt to our ever changing world and things will keep continuing to improve as long as humans inhabit the earth.
 

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I don't see anything in those articles (nor any other article ever written) that proves that there is a correlation between ice melting and human activity, and that's my entire issue with "climate change" -- nobody has proven to anything close to a scientific certainty that anything we humans are doing or not doing has the slightest impact on the climate. It's all theoretical conjecture, hypothesis, and assumption. The ice is melting is a credible fact, but the theories and assumptions behind why the ice is melting are not. Just because a number of scientists have elected to agree on a theory despite the lack of proof doesn't make it true. The vast majority of the scientific community once elected to agree that the earth was flat; until they were proven wrong.

We are told we must simply have "faith" that the scientists are right. It's akin to religious fervor. We are presented with circumstantial evidence, with no actual proof to back it up. We are told that if we don't act immediately that we are all doomed; we can't wait for proof as then it will be too late. Sadly, "climate change" has become a cottage industry where various groups are fighting for money, and once money is involved it clouds their motives and makes any of their "conclusions" suspect. There are also substantial portions of the world's population that envy or dislike the way others live their lives, and they have gotten on the "climate change" bandwagon as a simple means to an end to manipulate and control how those people live their lives.

For the record, I (along with probably 99.9% of others who are skeptical about human beings having the slightest impact on the planet's climate) do not support pollution, dirty water, or anything of the sort. I don't dispute that the ice is melting, but I do dispute the conclusion that it is melting because of human activity and not because of a natural climatic cycle. I love the great outdoors and enjoy fresh air and clean water, but I'm not going to blindly sacrifice my way of life simply because a group of scientists (even if it was a majority) told me I had to without any sound science to back them up.

It's the ultimate in arrogance to think that human beings have influence over the earth's climate or worse that it can be controlled. If the same conclusions of the "climate change" proponents were applied to earthquakes or volcanoes or solar activity it would be immediately dismissed as nonsense, but because everyone wants clean air and clean water many have been "guilted" into blindly accepting these theories.

I am an eternal optimist. I truly believe that necessity is the mother of invention, and that every day that goes by brings us closer to the ideal of living the best life possible. If you look at the quality of life that we live today compared to our parents, grandparents, and so on, it only keeps getting better. Countless technological advancements have abounded without any underlying fear or panic forcing their invention. I am confident that we will reach a point of advancement where things like pollution are no longer an issue, that our technology and intelligence will adapt to our ever changing world and things will keep continuing to improve as long as humans inhabit the earth.

great post!

to add.

if enough scientist agree that mayo cures cancer.. it then becomes fact. despite the fact there may be no real proof.

we as humans have been here for so little time. its foolish to think we know whats really going on. no one was here 10k years ago. **** we have trouble getting things straight from a few hundred years ago.
 

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I don't see anything in those articles (nor any other article ever written) that proves that there is a correlation between ice melting and human activity, and that's my entire issue with "climate change" -- nobody has proven to anything close to a scientific certainty that anything we humans are doing or not doing has the slightest impact on the climate. It's all theoretical conjecture, hypothesis, and assumption. The ice is melting is a credible fact, but the theories and assumptions behind why the ice is melting are not. Just because a number of scientists have elected to agree on a theory despite the lack of proof doesn't make it true. The vast majority of the scientific community once elected to agree that the earth was flat; until they were proven wrong.

We are told we must simply have "faith" that the scientists are right. It's akin to religious fervor. We are presented with circumstantial evidence, with no actual proof to back it up. We are told that if we don't act immediately that we are all doomed; we can't wait for proof as then it will be too late. Sadly, "climate change" has become a cottage industry where various groups are fighting for money, and once money is involved it clouds their motives and makes any of their "conclusions" suspect. There are also substantial portions of the world's population that envy or dislike the way others live their lives, and they have gotten on the "climate change" bandwagon as a simple means to an end to manipulate and control how those people live their lives.

For the record, I (along with probably 99.9% of others who are skeptical about human beings having the slightest impact on the planet's climate) do not support pollution, dirty water, or anything of the sort. I don't dispute that the ice is melting, but I do dispute the conclusion that it is melting because of human activity and not because of a natural climatic cycle. I love the great outdoors and enjoy fresh air and clean water, but I'm not going to blindly sacrifice my way of life simply because a group of scientists (even if it was a majority) told me I had to without any sound science to back them up.

It's the ultimate in arrogance to think that human beings have influence over the earth's climate or worse that it can be controlled. If the same conclusions of the "climate change" proponents were applied to earthquakes or volcanoes or solar activity it would be immediately dismissed as nonsense, but because everyone wants clean air and clean water many have been "guilted" into blindly accepting these theories.

I am an eternal optimist. I truly believe that necessity is the mother of invention, and that every day that goes by brings us closer to the ideal of living the best life possible. If you look at the quality of life that we live today compared to our parents, grandparents, and so on, it only keeps getting better. Countless technological advancements have abounded without any underlying fear or panic forcing their invention. I am confident that we will reach a point of advancement where things like pollution are no longer an issue, that our technology and intelligence will adapt to our ever changing world and things will keep continuing to improve as long as humans inhabit the earth.


This is a well written post. The articles were not meant to tie human activity to ice melting. Simply, I posted the links to acknowledge the fact that it is melting.

We are told we must simply have "faith" that the scientists are right. It's akin to religious fervor. We are presented with circumstantial evidence, with no actual proof to back it up. We are told that if we don't act immediately that we are all doomed; we can't wait for proof as then it will be too late. Sadly, "climate change" has become a cottage industry where various groups are fighting for money, and once money is involved it clouds their motives and makes any of their "conclusions" suspect. There are also substantial portions of the world's population that envy or dislike the way others live their lives, and they have gotten on the "climate change" bandwagon as a simple means to an end to manipulate and control how those people live their lives.
I fully agree with the above statements. I am neither a theist or a alarmist.
I am more worried about the control you are speaking of.

What I am confused on is the fact that I seem to be taken as a proponent of global warming. That is not the case. I do not follow that doctrine.
But I do appreciate your well written post.

Alex
 

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