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So Im gonna make this lexury sedan more of a lightweight (hopefully) car. So after taking obvious items out. Hood pad, engine trim, interior trim, front fenderwell shields, headliner and roof gutted (moonroof). Also trunk liner, carpeting, gonna work on the sound material below MAAYBe, and gonna get a carbon fiber hood. Get rid off stock stereo amps subs and wiring. And replace with easliy detachable upgraded subs and amp. Console's gone and head unit might be moved to the climate control spot. Rip out the AC completely, and all wiring related to it. Crueise control will be gone, battery in the trunk.

This is all because its a 3.2 with 75, 000 miles. Although its ATX, I think it might be worth it while converting it to MTX to just make an adapter plate right? Then get an easily available manual transmission and then finally TURBO.

So looking at seat options so I took out the passenger side one and thats a heavy seat. But the mounting of it is also very weird to the floorpan. So looked higher up and the actual seat mounts to a bracket. I have yet to measure but it looks like theres a way I could use the old brackets gutted off power. Would this work you think? I could even leave the power to go front and back to mount the seat and once I like where its at then strip the motors. Ill measure soon but on jegs it shows all the mounting the seats below the seat. So even if the holes dont line up close make a couple 1/4 plates to make up the difference. I hope.

Tell me what you think or what people have done before. I just want light cheap seats not that compfy or anything.
 

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Just replacing the power seats with manual equivalents saves a ton of weight. I have a fairly light manual driver's seat taking up space in my garage. Let me know if you want it (I'm in Scottsdale). It was in the Pumpkin and I had to put a race seat in that to pass tech.
 

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smokinshogun said:
So Im gonna make this lexury sedan more of a lightweight (hopefully) car. So after taking obvious items out. Hood pad, engine trim, interior trim, front fenderwell shields, headliner and roof gutted (moonroof). Also trunk liner, carpeting, gonna work on the sound material below MAAYBe, and gonna get a carbon fiber hood. Get rid off stock stereo amps subs and wiring. And replace with easliy detachable upgraded subs and amp. Console's gone and head unit might be moved to the climate control spot. Rip out the AC completely, and all wiring related to it. Crueise control will be gone, battery in the trunk.

This is all because its a 3.2 with 75, 000 miles. Although its ATX, I think it might be worth it while converting it to MTX to just make an adapter plate right? Then get an easily available manual transmission and then finally TURBO.

So looking at seat options so I took out the passenger side one and thats a heavy seat. But the mounting of it is also very weird to the floorpan. So looked higher up and the actual seat mounts to a bracket. I have yet to measure but it looks like theres a way I could use the old brackets gutted off power. Would this work you think? I could even leave the power to go front and back to mount the seat and once I like where its at then strip the motors. Ill measure soon but on jegs it shows all the mounting the seats below the seat. So even if the holes dont line up close make a couple 1/4 plates to make up the difference. I hope.

Tell me what you think or what people have done before. I just want light cheap seats not that compfy or anything.

To convert to a MTX you don't need any adapter plate, but there is alot of more work that needs to be done. Alot has been said about it so look around.
 

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Well I want the car to be MTX, but couldn't find a new one from a sho. SO talking to some smart *** AAI guy and he says how most transmissions are interchangable with some work. Like an adapter plate and maybe some more work but as long as their the fit up and bolt up all good. SO im thinking find a transmission new? The redo everything since Im gonna need alot so shifter, clutch and all the cables. Then maybe some wiring for the tranny might need to be done. Just would like an easier to replace tranny especially if its gonna be turbocharged. But that is all later.

Well maunal seats would help But I want like drag street seat, hopefully with some color. Gray and black. Im thinking stripped down power seat brackets mounted to racing seat with redrilling or maybe even a plate to make bolt up possible. This way I can even keep the stop dot approved seat belts for now. Should work right?
 

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im doing the same thing with my car. im hopefully just gonna swap a fps 5quafied 5spd with a built 3.3, but that wont be for some months. ive heard u can just take standard racing seat brackets and mod them rather easily. our floors are just contured funny. i havent looked that much into it. im still gutting. theres a lot of crap in these cars. if ur gonna remove the sound proofing on the floor freeze it with dry ice, its much easier. but beware sometiems theres no floor beneith it. i gotta work on getting a full floor now, b4 i start adding new seats.
 

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like where would there be nothing left. So far just ran into a few holes under it. Just really small. Tell me how all that goes, but with the seat the floor is really not level and the holes dont line up with each other even. SO nooo universal brackets will fit right?
 

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Coldsho lives in IN where there is a lot of salt and rust, so the floors can give out. The sound deadening material is asphault which gets squishy when warm and hard and brittle when cold, so give that a try if you want and go with the manual seats. You will still save weight but you will also save money.
 

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well Im trying to make the front half of the car look pretty good. So Im gonna remove all of the sound deafening and replace the carpet up to the end of the front seats. Put the console back and everything. So it looks all normal if you look ahead. Turn around and you see nothing. No back seat, carpet, trunkliner, just subs. I really want racing seats so I can get black and grey. And 90 a bracket sounds horrible!

Glad I live in AZ, you scared me for a second with that one. Ill try the dry ice.
 

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You car will rattle like a tin can with subs in the trunk and no sound deadening, like carpet or padding.
 

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i know there will be rattling but will I be able to hear it?Only gonna leave carpet in front of the front seats. No back seat so Ill see the 2 8" or 10" subs. I can already hear like every rock that is thrown up and hits the bottom of the floor. Kinda tin can rocks on outside. So adding some major vibration on the inside sounded like a good idea.

Which do you think will be worse, diving on gravel with car gutted or same situation with really loud music? Hopefully it will help!
 

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oh yeah you will hear stuff rattle...

you will hear a lot more road noise, things hitting the bottom of the car, and squeeks!

if your gonna strip it, strip every last single thing you can from pushpins to wires to no longer needs bolts, everything. Once you start removing sound deadener and rear seats, those kinds of little parts can drive you crazy with noises. I know your trying to lighten it, but it sounds like a street car, especially with subs etc..... i would look into some subframe connectors.... maybe just some shorts, I have some shorties but I don't really know what I could weigh them on to give you an accurate reading of what they weigh.
 

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Y I drove around a little today, and there is a little squeaking from the belt area? Hopefully a new belt will fix or maybe idler puller ot water pump bearings. Other than that it sounds nice, you hear more noise of the car in side too! Ya Im gonna work on wiring soon. Probably run wires myself from head unit to amps and subs so I can tear that out.

what kinda change would subframe connectors do? Its more of a street car I can race legally if I want. The subs and amps would HOPEFULLY come out very easily. Theres not much rattling but Ive noticed some noises now that before werent noticeable.

So no one has any seat ideas?
 

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