Wife Wants Remote Start on Her 2012

[spartanv7]

Hey everyone

I'm thinking about getting the factory remote start put on my wife's 2012. I've read that due to the push start in the car when you open the door the car shuts off and you have to start it again. Is that true? Any additional feedback on it?

Thanks in advance and Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[jmr061]

I have the installation manual for the 2012 if you want it. It does hook up to the door sensors but indicates it won't remote start if a door is open. Nothing about killing it if you open the door when it was remote started. This is a hardwired system and not plug and play.

Jason

 

[rubydist]

on the dealer-installed or the factory-installed remote start, when the car is started remotely, none of the dash stuff is working, and if you get in and attempt to drive away it will shut off, but not when you open the door (unless you break the window and open the door from the inside handle). you need to get in and press the start button (with the key in your possession) in order to get the car into "run" mode so you can drive it. so, there is a way to make it not have to shut off and be re-started.

btw, the doors are required to be closed and locked in order for the remote start to occur.

 

[mval]

i have a viper on mine & same thing, doors must be closed & locked & pretty much the same thing with the keyfob. it has to know you have it before will go to run position. safety thing so nobody steals it.

 

[rjdkanak]

I have a '12 with the dealer installed remote start option. YES it does turn off the car when the door is opened, pretty annoying. I have read here, or another forum, that this is because of the MyKey function you can have. The newer models with built in factory remote start are able to overcome this. I believe that the dealer is able to get into the computer and have it run through the door opening. This may disable the MyKey functionality when remote start is used. I haven't inquired at my dealer about this, so I am not sure.

 

[jmr061]

I have a '12 with the dealer installed remote start option. YES it does turn off the car when the door is opened, pretty annoying. I have read here, or another forum, that this is because of the MyKey function you can have. The newer models with built in factory remote start are able to overcome this. I believe that the dealer is able to get into the computer and have it run through the door opening. This may disable the MyKey functionality when remote start is used. I haven't inquired at my dealer about this, so I am not sure.

Then disconnect the remote start brain from the door. Problem solved but it would start if someone has a door open.

As for the 13+ yes its built right into the BCM and everything functions as it should.

 

[spartanv7]

Thanks for the input. I have an '06 Mustang that has aftermarket remote start and it doesn't care if the doors are locked, remains running when the doors are open, and requires you to put the key in the ignition and turn to then be able to drive the car. If you put your foot on the brake before putting the key in the ignition, it kills the motor. I guess I'm just concerned about it being annoying that if you open the door to get in, it kills the motor and you have to restart it.

We don't have MyKey enabled. I don't know too much about MyKey but when I take her car in for an oil change, I'm going to get everything quoted and I'll ask about this. If the door thing can be bypassed, then this should be awesome. Hopefully it doesn't cost an arm and a leg too

EDIT: Just found this video. Anybody confirm this works with the 2012 system?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQHb0mU0rvI

 

[esfoad]

Mine is a 2010 and I had the dealer install the Ford remote start. It shuts off the motor when I either open a door or the trunk. It does not shut off the motor when I unlock the doors, only when I open a door. It's really not that bad but it would have been better if these had the system the 2013+ cars have.

 

[jmr061]

Mine is a 2010 and I had the dealer install the Ford remote start. It shuts off the motor when I either open a door or the trunk. It does not shut off the motor when I unlock the doors, only when I open a door. It's really not that bad but it would have been better if these had the system the 2013+ cars have.

Watch the video link he provided and see if your remote start is programmable the same way.

 

[spartanv7]

Watch the video link he provided and see if your remote start is programmable the same way.

If it does work, that would be perfect. The only thing I'm wondering about is whether or not this works the same with the push button start since he says he puts his foot on the brake, then puts it into auxiliary power. With our cars, you only press the push button for auxiliary and putting your foot on the brake would start the car. Maybe the beginning programming sequence is different...?

 

[jmr061]

If it does work, that would be perfect. The only thing I'm wondering about is whether or not this works the same with the push button start since he says he puts his foot on the brake, then puts it into auxiliary power. With our cars, you only press the push button for auxiliary and putting your foot on the brake would start the car. Maybe the beginning programming sequence is different...?

You are correct....that wouldn't work...duh. I looked in the install manual which cover both key and push start. The key section does talk about entering programming mode (it doesn't discuss bypassing the door though) but push start doesn't say anything about entering programming mode.

Think we need to find someone with the operator's manual rather than the install manual.

 

[esfoad]

Unfortunately I don't have the manual but I did extensive research when I purchased the remote start and, at least at that time, the only solution for a vehicle with push button start was for the engine to die when a door or the trunk was opened. My car has 85000 miles on and so far no issues with the starter that I can detect. Sounds the same as day one. I did have to replace the battery once but I hear that's normal on modern cars and that Ford puts in a battery with relatively low amperage in new cars.

 

[spartanv7]

Going to have a chat with the Ford dealer that's done all of the work on my wife's car. They know me and they do good work, hopefully that will be enough for them to give me some real talk about this and not BS me around that "it's a security feature and you can't disable it". I'll post back what I find, probably after Friday.

Here's what I know so far:

1. Multiple people on multiple forums have mentioned that disabling MyKey disables the door shut off issue. Since the computer isn't smart enough to detect which key started the car (the master or the sub key), the security feature is to force the user to restart the car in order to detect which key and then set the security systems in the car accordingly. I'll be asking the dealer about this since I could care less about MyKey and would rather have it disabled.
2. Multiple people have mentioned that the memory setting to switch the door open shut off resides in bank 2 option 7. That was confirmed in the YouTube video, but the issue here is that I can't figure out how to enter programming mode on the Taurus like they do on the Expedition with the turn-key system. This will be one of the questions I ask the dealer although I'm not exactly optimistic about them telling me how to do this myself...
3. There is (supposedly, not confirmed) a wire for each opening on the car, doors/trunk/hood that will detect if any of them are open so it sounds like just disabling that wouldn't really be conducive.
4. Nobody on any of the forums I saw has complained about having to replace their starter due to repeated restarts of the car. But, it still sounds annoying to have to do.

I'll keep checking back to see if anybody else has found anything, but if not then I'll post what I find at the dealer on Friday.

 

[mval]

for above reasons plus more distance went with viper on both cars, only issue is carrying 2 fobs.

 

[jmr061]

Honestly you might be better off going with Viper or other DEI product. Price will probably be about the same if not cheaper and you end up with two remotes regardless if you go factory or aftermarket. Ford probably will have an outside installer install the factory kit and the SRP price on the OEM kit isn't cheap either.

 

[jmr061]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAE3Bnf7Js

Door opening issue. Not he comments that it works the same with push button start

 

[spartanv7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAE3Bnf7Js

Door opening issue. Not he comments that it works the same with push button start

Well I was coming here to tell everyone that the Ford dealer told me it can't be done. I asked them all the questions I noted earlier. I haven't shown them this video and the SHO is currently getting an oil change and trans flush so I need to go back there to get it later today. I'll show them this and see if they think it changes anything.

I'm a bit skeptical because the only comments mention that it "should" work but nobody has verified it. :/

EDIT: Just came back from the dealer and showed them the video. They still said they can't confirm whether or not the actual option will be programmable in the memory but they did say that the push button override shown in both videos will be part of the unit. Their ultimate answer to me was: "you won't know unless you try it". It's $626 for the bi-directional unit installed. That's a costly gamble in my opinion. Going to price out the Viper units at a shop that the service manager at the dealership recommended.

 

[jmr061]

I located the "programming" sheet for this on line. The key model you can shut that function off but it appears the push button start you can not. If you do go with the system I would just not hook up the door ajar circuit and call it good. It is still pricey though and considering you have to do two remotes with an OEM Ford system I would go aftermarket (which I don't recommend for the 13+ models).

Jason

 

[mval]

i agree with jason. i have ford's on my '13 escape, it's ok, opening door doesn't shut engine off or nothing so works like it should, have only 1 fob & would not consider replacing a working oem. but viper especially the 2 way is superior in both distance & the 2 way feature which let's you know that's it's really started, so that what i did on my 2 cars that had no remote start.

 

[nannho]

Mine is a 2010 and I had the dealer install the Ford remote start. It shuts off the motor when I either open a door or the trunk. It does not shut off the motor when I unlock the doors, only when I open a door. It's really not that bad but it would have been better if these had the system the 2013+ cars have.

THIS...design flaw and cant be changed from what I have been told.