Which Subframe bushings to buy?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Greetings,

I drive my '93 ATX very very hard, and I'm looking to replace my subframe bushings and motor mounts.

Can anyone recommend a particular type of subframe bushing to purchase? Oem, Police, Delrin, Aluminum....? Which type seems to be getting the most use?

Also, motor mounts... how much did you pay for yours? Should I worry about getting some reinforced ones or not?

Also, I see that some years / models have had torque limiters installed. Is there anything similar to that for my '93 ATX? An alternative, would it be possible to fabricate a solid motor mount? I'd love to see both my engine and subframe never move a millimeter, if there were no drawbacks.

Any tips would be appreciated.

-Ryan

 

[sdpatt]

If you are going for the firmest attachment you can get, use the aluminum subframe bushings. There is a minor increase in engine noise and vibration with these bushings.

There are no reinforced motor mounts for the ATX because they are fluid filled. I am not aware that anyone makes a solid mount for the ATX, nor would you want one. For the same reason you don't want the solid roll dampers that are only available for the MTX. You attach that engine to the subframe, especially with the aluminum subframe bushings, without any rubber to isloate the NVH of the powertrain and you will feel like you are inside the engine while you drive.

The ATX SHO was not designed as the hot rod of the family. It was detuned suspension-wise to be more of an executive express (Ford's words - not mine).

 

[luigisho]

Here's another tip. Set some money aside for a new tranny fund. If you beat this car it's almost certain to go. I hear Ford Specialists of Georgia is a good place to get a rebuild better than stock. Just for your mental file for later. You never know. wink

 

[SHObill]

to those of u with an MTX. what is the average cost of parts & outside labor to do an average clutch job? how many miles can u expect to get out of a clutch mildly/aggressivly driven.u no not babied but not beat on all the time! what is the cost of a replacement transaxle? with labor?what can u expect to pay for an upgrade with labor? lighter flywheel ect...

 

[RJ-92]

I've onle had mine for 2 days (rear only too) and I can honestly say, you want aluminum... They the BIZZOM!!

 

[naval-avi8or]

sdpatt:
If you are going for the firmest attachment you can get, use the aluminum subframe bushings. There is a minor increase in engine noise and vibration with these bushings.

There are no reinforced motor mounts for the ATX because they are fluid filled. I am not aware that anyone makes a solid mount for the ATX, nor would you want one. For the same reason you don't want the solid roll dampers that are only available for the MTX. You attach that engine to the subframe, especially with the aluminum subframe bushings, without any rubber to isloate the NVH of the powertrain and you will feel like you are inside the engine while you drive.

The ATX SHO was not designed as the hot rod of the family. It was detuned suspension-wise to be more of an executive express (Ford's words - not mine).

Scott~ I asked you about the reinforced ATX motor mount the other day as well. I did find some at the place we don't like to shop "SHOSHOP". They aren't any more expensive than standard ATX mounts.

 

[93MTXSHO]

About the clutch. I had mine done a year ago. It was 490 for labor/flywheel machining. The parts (clutch disc, pressure plate, throw-out bearing) cost me about $260 from Ford, but I know the guy in the parts department. Best of luck. Remember, you can, despite what SHO SHOP says, get a brand new flywheel. If I had known this, I would have ordered one and had it put in when I had the clutch done. It's an F1DZ part #, and I paid about 245 so I have it next time. Also, have them replace your rear main, I sure wish that I had.

 

[SHOZ123]

I have the Aluminum SFB on my '97. No vibration problems to speak of. I also use a retention chain between the front of the motor and the subframe to keep the motor from rocking back.

If you don't want to use the solid Aliminum bushings the Gen 3 rear bushing is the best of the ones that Ford has produced over the years. They will fit the other Gen SHOs in front or back.

FPS is good for trannys.

<small>[ September 26, 2002, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: SHOZ123 ]</small>

 

[jthomas68]

Don`t get the Delrin bushings.

 

[RStalveyARFF]

the labor book quotes 8 hours labor. A full NEW genuine Ford clutch kit from shonutperformance.com is $219 with pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing, and nylon pin. Shonut also has kits including the clutch and wear items for a slightly higher cost. Never buy a ford clutch kit at an american dealer, they are remanufactured units, and more expensive than the canadian NEW units. Don't get a new flywheel, have the runout checked, and if in spec, have it ground at a reputable machine shop. Should be no more than $30.