Whats up with my brakes?

[SASHO91]

ok i have gone through 3 pairs of rotors up front. the first time i had to get new, calipers, rotors, and pads. the rear just got turned along with new pads. that was $550. plus some other stuff. Labor was the real killer though.
then i went through those. warped them and cracked them. then when i went back they put new ones on, with new pads.
then those went to crap. warpped these, so they just turned them. And new pads.
then those did the same thing. this time they told me that i needed to get new struts because that was the problem. so i did. put new struts on, and upgraded the rotor from the regular, to a better one, and put ceramic pads on as well. this was another $300. mainly for the strut install.
this has lasted me for a while, but a couple of days ago i noticed that it was acting up. so i checked the rotors, and sure enough, my side rotor on the inside is allready grinding.
this is really starting to **** me off. so I am going to be doing the 96 upgrade, but for now im going back to midas to get them to fix this s***.
And the rotors and pads i had on there were awsome. no fade, and stopped pretty good. But i guess the undersized rotors just suck!

So as i have gathered, the 96 upgrade contains for the 11.6; 94-95 knuckles, 96+sho caliper brackets from junkyard or ford, rotors, and pads.
what else am i missing?
How much will this set me back?
i know that i should have done this in the first place, but parents payed for it the first time, and they wanted it to be profesionally installed, and under warrenty.
But if i knew then what i know now, i would not have even bothered with midas.. **** for the money i have spent on brakes already, i could have got one **** of a setup from midwest... live and learn...

P.S. I hate Midas.....

 

[SHOtimer]

First off, your struts don't have anything to do with warping rotors...they screwed you on that one.

For a '96 upgrade you need

1. 94/95 knuckles
2. 94-95 calipers ( you might be able to use your '93 but i doubt it)
3. 96 caliper brackets (shonut, or junkyard)
4. 96 rotors
5. 96 pads (not 601 pads)...use the Ford OEM pads or PFCM pads...

With that you should be good. While swaping knuckles it would be a good idea to put new wheel bearings in the 94-95 knuckles while they are off...

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

thanks, how much is this gonna run me?
also i read about the 95 contiental being the same as the 96 upgrade. if so i think i will have better luck finding that here, then i would the parts from a sho... but
thanks again.

 

[SASHO91]

i think they got the bad end of that deal though. witht he struts i mean.
when i went to go pick them up from pep boys, local auto store, they charged the midas acount, so i walked out with a pair of struts...
got back to midas, and just payed for the install.
but they overchaged me for the install. it was like rated at 1.5 hrs. and they got done within 45 mins. but charged me for 1.5 hrs.

 

[SASHO91]

UPDATE:
Ok i went to midas today, they said before they can warrenty the brakes out, to put new ones on, i have to get new brake lines. they said that the brake lines may be collapesd on the inside. Anyways, i told them about the upgrade that i was gonna do, and the said that instead of fixing this problem, by putting the new rotors, and pads, back on, to just bring the parts for the 96 upgrade in. and they will do it. i was like yeah that will come out to like 500 bucks! yeah right. I can do it myself.
Do i really need to get new brake lines? I am going to do the 96 upgrade, so what lines will i need if i do need new ones? should i get the ones from the 94/95, a 93 (my car) or from the 99? if i do get the ones for my car, 93, will they still work in the 96 upgrade, or will i still need to get new lines for the 96? If i do get the 96 lines, will they work on the 93 brakes, until i get the parts in for the upgrade?
I just need them to fix the rotors, and put new pads on. I will worry about the rest of the brakes.
they also told me that they could get me the slotted ones for the brakes i have now, the 10.1 (i think). Im like, im upgrading the rotor because this rotor is too small for this car. but they insit on saying that the heat disapation will be great enough to stop them from warping.
Should i just do this?> Get the new 93 brake lines, and the slotted rotors(which i only have to pay the difference between the two,the rotors i have on now, and the slotted) with the ceramic pads again.
Or, go with getting the 96 upgrade? I know that most of you will say go for the 96 upgrade, but money is tight right now for me, so the slotted way would be cheaper because of the warrenty.
All i would have to pay would be to get the new lines, then the difference bettween the rotors. thats it.
As the 96 upgrade, is a little bit more pricey, not even including the install. I found the 99' caliper brackets at A-Z for 20 bucks each. And found the rotors and pads. Its 135 or so for the caliper bracket, rotors, and pads. but i would still need the Knuckles and the calipers from a 94/95. Which im guessing another 50-100.
I drive my car on occasions, hard, but not extreme. the setup i have now was working very well for me. But i think that the lines may be the problem. But if i get the slotted, and the ceramic pads again, then i think i will be set, for a while. dont get me wrong the 96 upgrade will be going on, but like i said, cash is alittle short right now. (job is taking longer than i thought to get in to)
Do yall think that this would be a OK choice for a while? The slotted rotors, ceramic pads, and the new brake lines?
96 upgrade will be the next thing for the brakes though. i will be buying parts for it here and there, until i get them all. then its going in.

Wow i typed a lot!!! Thanks guys!! Thanks alot!!!!

 

[SHOtimer]

Brakes lines do collapse, but that is mostly in the rear, I don't think that is an issue in the front. You can do the slotted rotors if you want. If $ is tight then just build the parts for the '96 upgrade and do it eventually. The brackets AZ sells are wrong. What I would do is have them put on new rotors and the PFCM pads that AZ sells, they brake excellently and do a fabulous job at heat dissipation and will elimiate your warpage. They also have a lifetime warranty and arn't that expensive, they are semi-metallic which is a higher quality than ceramic.

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

so should i just get new lines then. i mean they are going to have to make me get them so they can warrenty the brakes off again.
Its either get the slotted rotors which are going to be probably 50 bucks more. And have them put on the ceramic pads. they have lifetime warrenty so they are free.
Or, stick with the same rotor i have now, and go get the PFCM pads from A-Z, and have them install them, which might be a fee. But if i can get them through them, then they might put them under the warrnety, and substitute the PCFM pads for the ceramics, if the prices arent all to different.
Both will have to have new lines either way. So thats an extra 30 for the lines, from A-Z.
Which would you go with? I still like the slotted way, even though it is a little more, but if the PCFM pads will do almost the same, then i might go that route. thanks for the reply, i have to call them in the morning to tell them what i want to do,that way they can order the parts tomorrow, or today, whatever, so they can put me down for weds. morning. So i want to figure this out now. thanks again.

 

[SHOtimer]

Well, you are stuck on the lines it seems, so it won't hurt I would go ahead. I wouldn't spend the $ on the slotted rotors but have new rotors put on (warranty) and then go with the PFCM (Performance Friction Carbon Metallic) pads, they will cure your problem along with being $ effecient.

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

thanks alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really do like the look of a slotted rotor though!!!
Do you think they can exchange them from the ceramics, to the PCFM? or should i just pick up a set from a-z when i go get the brake lines?
I think the ceramics were around 40-50 i think... but not sure..
how much are the PCFM? I know the 99 are $55. So are mine going to be more?

thats funny, they said that the ceramics would disapate heat alot better! which they did, and i had noooo fade on them, well after a few, 90-50 stops they had a little. but not bad.... anyways.
Thanks again.

 

[SHOtimer]

Well, isn't this something...

I just checked the AZ website and they don't list the PFCM pads for '93. You guys are the only year for those size brakes anyway. They list the PFCM-Z rated with a 2yr warranty for $131, but i've never used those nor spoken to anyone who has.

So, I guess at this point you might as well go with the lines, the slotted rotors and see what happens from there....

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

i was just on there to, looking up the part number for the lines. should have looked for the pads too. oh well, gotta get the slotted then, dam
should i stay with the ceramic pads?
Also dosent the slotted rotors eat through pads? i have heard romors but.....
thanks... again...

 

[SHOtimer]

I have never dealt with slotted rotors before so i'm no help there......

Good luck with them, I didn't really like ceramic and I went to the '96 and love it. But, I would say if they work for you with the slotted go for it...

Doug

 

[SASHO91]

thanks for your help!!!

oh yeah, post number 400 baby!!!!

shut up doug...
with your wanna be 1000 posts!


thanks again man..

 

[SHOtimer]

No problem.....looks like it is an eventual 1000..not wanna be..

Doug