What tires do you run?

[SHOspazz92]

For the Road course guys, What do you run? I imagine a lot of you run Hoosier R6's. So let's hear your input on them (And other tires on your SHO as well)

What tires are you using?

What Size?

How many events have they lasted you?

What's your alignment set to?

Let's hear it.

-Sam

 

[Shoaz]

For the Road course guys, What do you run? I imagine a lot of you run Hoosier R6's. So let's hear your input on them (And other tires on your SHO as well)

Sam continues to suck our brains dry. I'm convinced he's a zombie.

What tires are you using? You guessed it, Hoosier R6. I've used Toyo RA1, Hankooks, and the Hoosiers. The Hoosiers are definitely the fastest, but the Toyos are the best bang for the buck because they last a LONG time (if you don't shave them).

What Size? 225/50-16 The 245/45-16 are good, too, but I went to the "narrower" tire to move down a class.

How many events have they lasted you? ~16-17 heat cycles. We're noticing that how long they last depends a lot on the car and driver. My fastest laps at Nationals were on a set that had 15 heat cycles, I set a track record at Firebird a while back on a set with 14 heat cycles. Most people say they drop off for them after 5-6 cycles. For me they may drop off a bit, but then come back for a while before they cord.

My buddy with the Elise runs 'em until they cord. He thinks his car is too light to fully heat cycle the tires, so they don't heat cycle out. I know that's not why mine tend to last, but, who knows.

What's your alignment set to? Neutral toe in front, eensy bit of toe-in in the rear. Camber is -3.5/-2.75 F/R. Max caster.

 

[black92]

235-40-17 Nitto NT-01

We have about 6-7 events on them and they still have lots of life left. I'de defently purchase another set, but Im going to try something different to compair when these are done.

Im run my car hard. Ask Michelle, ******* the turns and ******* the brakes. They have defently served there purpose.

 

[Shoaz]

235-40-17 Nitto NT-01

We have about 6-7 events on them and they still have lots of life left. I'de defently purchase another set, but Im going to try something different to compair when these are done.

Im run my car hard. Ask Michelle, ******* the turns and ******* the brakes. They have defently served there purpose.

Around here the NT-01 seems to be one of the most favored tires after the Hoosiers.

 

[black92]

Around here the NT-01 seems to be one of the most favored tires after the Hoosiers.

Expecially for the cost. The price is what sold me.

 

[St Louis SHO]

225/45/17 Hoosier's (What used to be used on your car, Sam)

 

[SHOspazz92]

Sam continues to suck our brains dry. I'm convinced he's a zombie.

Old peoples brains are already Dry. They are best to Dice up and use as a seasoning on the younger, Juicer brains.

235-40-17 Nitto NT-01

We have about 6-7 events on them and they still have lots of life left. I'de defently purchase another set, but Im going to try something different to compair when these are done.

Im run my car hard. Ask Michelle, ******* the turns and ******* the brakes. They have defently served there purpose.

Try the Direzza Star Specs next. They are even cheaper and from what I have experienced (and heard) just as good, If not better then the NT-01.

225/45/17 Hoosier's (What used to be used on your car, Sam)

Oh so you got those! D'oh!

-Sam

 

[drivinhard]

we ran the star specs for lemons. not a bad tire, but I was a bit dissapointed by the grip level after hearing most of the hype. it wasn't bad, but it wasn't R compound-like. would be a great street tire

for just lapping days, the R6's are probably way overkill for the SHO. the SHO is ******* tires. unless you are competing on the clock, I can't see running hoosiers unless you just have $$ spilling from your pockets. The SHO will eat up them up quick. the RA-1's hold up real good over time. The V700 is an oldie but a goodie, but it's a very heavy tire and wears pretty quick on the SHO. I have run 1:45 at Road Atlanta on a 225/45/17 V700 on 8" rims and a 200 lb passenger (92, full weight car, quaife and 3.2L)

My fastest laps at Nationals were on a set that had 15 heat cycles

Is this on R6's? that's insane. Although they do seem to hold up better than A6's over time (if Hoosier dumps the NASA contingency for 2010, I will probably run R6s). The A6's are only fastest through a couple of heat cycles. A 10 HC A6 was 4 secs/lap slower than a fresh sticker A6 at Road Atlanta (2.54 mile) in Aug, and I pushed 10/10ths on both sets and the runs were almost back to back.

 

[Shoaz]

for just lapping days, the R6's are probably way overkill for the SHO. the SHO is ******* tires. unless you are competing on the clock, I can't see running hoosiers unless you just have $$ spilling from your pockets. The SHO will eat up them up quick. the RA-1's hold up real good over time.

+1 on all that.

Is this on R6's? that's insane. Although they do seem to hold up better than A6's over time (if Hoosier dumps the NASA contingency for 2010, I will probably run R6s).

Yeah, I've been getting pretty good, consistent life out of the R6s. Not only that, but they're fast throughout a session, not just the first few laps, althought the first few may be slightly faster (this weekend I was hitting fastest lap on lap 3 in most sesssions, which seems pretty typical for a lot of people on R6s). It's weird how different people have different experiences with them, but it seems to be all over the map. The guy with the 911 that I bought my first used set from was getting very long liftetimes out of them as well, and that seems to be fairly common for some of the Porsche guys, but not all. That longevity and consistency is why I've stuck with the R6s over the A6s. I just can't count on getting a good lap within the first few of a session, which seems to be required with the A6s before they start overheating.

The A6's are only fastest through a couple of heat cycles. A 10 HC A6 was 4 secs/lap slower than a fresh sticker A6 at Road Atlanta (2.54 mile) in Aug, and I pushed 10/10ths on both sets and the runs were almost back to back.

Four seconds?! Holy cow, that's enormous. I don't see anything close to that much variance across a session or the lifetime of the tire.

 

[drivinhard]

(this weekend I was hitting fastest lap on lap 3 in most sesssions, which seems pretty typical for a lot of people on R6s).

We are into the TTE/D guys in 2 laps , which means we have to get it done in the first 2. A6 is supremo here. And they are just absolutely unreal right out of the box.

The guy I compete with head to head runs R6's, everytime we've gone at it, I win on sat, he wins on sun. I cannot match his speed on sun, and I am quicker on sat when the tires are new. But his lap times will be more or less the same sat and sun, mine will be slower on sunday. And he can (and has done) nearly the same lap times on tires after 3 weekends. Forget that with the A6. The tread is still there, but they just HC out. (note I am still playing with 275's and him with 295s) I will test my 295's later this season.

they still run great after, great HPDE/lapping day tires, just not going to win any TT's with 'em.

I've got 12 or so sessions on some 275's A6's and they look (tread wise) like they've been on a SHO for 5 laps

so did you run any sticker R6's at miller? I would think you would have a pile of free hoosiers from your regional meets. some sticker A's might have made up that 2 secs to that sentra

I have heard the RA-1 and 555R2 use the same compound with a different tread. I ran my 555's and A6's (stickers) back to back at CMP and the A's were nearly 4 secs/lap quicker as well. The 555 is like the RA1, good till the last drop. mine are pretty whipped on the tread, but still are consistant and pretty quick.

I am taking some scrub A6's to VIR this weekend so I don't plan to be 100%. it's a non points out of region event, going just for fun. we'll see...

 

[SHOspazz92]

we ran the star specs for lemons. not a bad tire, but I was a bit dissapointed by the grip level after hearing most of the hype. it wasn't bad, but it wasn't R compound-like. would be a great street tire

Thanks for the input Mark. I have heard from a few people that they can be a little squirmy out of the of the Box but as they wear they get a whole lot better. I have never noticed this. However, I've only been Auto-X'ing my car.

Me personally, Have never had a single Issue with this tires not having enough grip, They have been phenomenal for me. (245/40/17).

-Sam

 

[Shoaz]

We are into the TTE/D guys in 2 laps , which means we have to get it done in the first 2. A6 is supremo here. And they are just absolutely unreal right out of the box.

What are your lap times? I'm guessing it's a long lap there?

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so did you run any sticker R6's at miller? I would think you would have a pile of free hoosiers from your regional meets. some sticker A's might have made up that 2 secs to that sentra

I took a "good" set that had 1 heat cycle and had then rested in darkened, air-conditioned comfort for a while, and a "practice" set that had about nine heat cycles on them. I ran the good set only for morning sessions when conditions were good. Fastest laps were on the good set until the last session when I ran the pratice set. I attribute the faster time to the competitive pressure being off and me not trying very hard, but clearly I didn't lose much if any time to the age of the tires.

Now that you mention it I don't know whether Joe was on A6s or R6s. I do know that he knew that I was on R6s. Hmmm...

 

[thebigjimsho]

Hoosiers here...

 

[SHOMurph]

Toyo RA-1s 235/45/17s

Lemons car Falken 615s surprisingly a great rugged sticky tire.

 

[shomesomesho]

Goodyear GT-2 bias slicks in 23.5X11.5-16. These are actually road race tires that I use for autocross.

Compared with Kumho V710's and Hoosier A6's which I have used in the past both on a SHO and Mustang, they are significantly better. They don't need as much heat to be effective, they tolerate a lot more heat when warmed up, and they wear better. Not to mention they are lighter and a little cheaper.

Grip is better both in a straight line and in steady state cornering, and they transition as well as the A6.

The only drawback is since they are true slicks and not DOT R tires, thus they are legal only in SCCA Prepared and Mod classes.

But again this is for autocrossing, I've never taken these on a road coarse.

 

[mosho93]

Toyo RA-1s 235/45/17s

I have a set of these mounted in the garage that i used on my SRT when i had it. Served their purpose very well, did many few auto-x's with them also.

 

[SHOspazz92]

Goodyear GT-2 bias slicks in 23.5X11.5-16. These are actually road race tires that I use for autocross.

Compared with Kumho V710's and Hoosier A6's which I have used in the past both on a SHO and Mustang, they are significantly better. They don't need as much heat to be effective, they tolerate a lot more heat when warmed up, and they wear better. Not to mention they are lighter and a little cheaper.

Grip is better both in a straight line and in steady state cornering, and they transition as well as the A6.

The only drawback is since they are true slicks and not DOT R tires, thus they are legal only in SCCA Prepared and Mod classes.

But again this is for autocrossing, I've never taken these on a road coarse.

I was hoping to hear from you. Wonder if they make them in a Size that would work for my SHO....

Edit, 280 Bucks a Tire! OUCH!

-Sam

 

[drivinhard]

What are your lap times? I'm guessing it's a long lap there?

My faith has been restored in a multi HC A6, as the 1st set this year I probably abused in the heat at CMP in May. They never really did that well after (ok but not great). This 2nd set I didn't abuse them in the heat as bad out of the box, and set a track record this past Sun at VIR with about 10 HC's on them. (Yes, I would have gone faster with stickers, but I didn't bring any so...)

The R6 may still be my 2010 tire if Hoosier drops the contingency, as I do think they are gonna be faster with like 10-15 HC over the A's.

New though, the A6's rule the roost.

 

[SHODWN]

Mark, you like stickers better that scuffs?

 

[drivinhard]

Mark, you like stickers better that scuffs?

at least with the A6, they are best (absolutely unreal) out of the box.

there is some debate as to if the R6 works better scuffed