SHODWN
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Hey what happened to the list that we donate to keep up and running? I know maybe the sporckets got SLAG in them.
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V8 Jellybean
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Lol... sounds like a bit of drama on the list... I dunno anyone, so I can't say one way or another 
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NebraskaSHO
Harumph!
Just read the email. I don't read much of the stuff I get from the mailing list.
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Paul L Fisher
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I'm not sure what happened! If Larry wants to get out of the moderation usiness, he should just do it. Not quite sure what the stunt of shutting down the list for 24 hours does.
Mr Anonymous
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This latest shutdown of the list is a poignant example of why Larry getting out of the list mod business is a good thing. 
These kinds of tantrums that he has from time-to-time are really silly, and do nothing except make him look petty and childish. I'm afraid that he just takes the concept of "moderating" the email list too seriously sometimes. The condescending remarks and unpleasantness directed at people on the list in increasing frequency for the past year or so have illustrated this, so handing off the "moderation" of the email list is probably in both Larry's, and the list's best interests.
In all reality, an email list requires just about zero moderation, with the exception of simple things like keeping away spammers and rip-off artists. It's an email list for cripes sake. It's like an electronic version of a big group of people sitting at a bar -- there are going to be cliques, and laughs, and stupid disagreements, but no blood is shed and by the end of the night nobody remembers what the **** the issue was to begin with. Nobody is "in charge" if the same disagreement were to happen at a real bar, so trying to be "in charge" in the email version is not a terribly productive use of one's time. If Larry truly felt it necessary to moderate content, then he should have set it up as a forum instead.
Before anyone makes any assumptions or reads anything into what I've said here, understand that I like Larry and consider him a friend. But, it's obvious to me that his tenure running the V8SHO website and list has burned him out, and this has resulted in spurts of consternation amongst members about silly, insignificant things. I applaud and thank him for his efforts and accomplishments. I know it hasn't been easy for him. Turning over the list to someone else was the right thing to do and I hope it allows him to relax a little more. I hope he considers doing the same with the website too since the content there, while extensive and informative, has become poorly organized and difficult to navigate -- especially for new people. Hopefully he'll be able to find a volunteer with more time and a knack for website design, and finally be able to wake up one day worrying about nothing more on the V8SHO website or email list except what size his gas tank is.
These kinds of tantrums that he has from time-to-time are really silly, and do nothing except make him look petty and childish. I'm afraid that he just takes the concept of "moderating" the email list too seriously sometimes. The condescending remarks and unpleasantness directed at people on the list in increasing frequency for the past year or so have illustrated this, so handing off the "moderation" of the email list is probably in both Larry's, and the list's best interests.
In all reality, an email list requires just about zero moderation, with the exception of simple things like keeping away spammers and rip-off artists. It's an email list for cripes sake. It's like an electronic version of a big group of people sitting at a bar -- there are going to be cliques, and laughs, and stupid disagreements, but no blood is shed and by the end of the night nobody remembers what the **** the issue was to begin with. Nobody is "in charge" if the same disagreement were to happen at a real bar, so trying to be "in charge" in the email version is not a terribly productive use of one's time. If Larry truly felt it necessary to moderate content, then he should have set it up as a forum instead.
Before anyone makes any assumptions or reads anything into what I've said here, understand that I like Larry and consider him a friend. But, it's obvious to me that his tenure running the V8SHO website and list has burned him out, and this has resulted in spurts of consternation amongst members about silly, insignificant things. I applaud and thank him for his efforts and accomplishments. I know it hasn't been easy for him. Turning over the list to someone else was the right thing to do and I hope it allows him to relax a little more. I hope he considers doing the same with the website too since the content there, while extensive and informative, has become poorly organized and difficult to navigate -- especially for new people. Hopefully he'll be able to find a volunteer with more time and a knack for website design, and finally be able to wake up one day worrying about nothing more on the V8SHO website or email list except what size his gas tank is.
Thumpersho
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We were just talking about this yesterday, I thought he was done as moderator as of today anyway.
Jim
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Jim
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John Hamilton
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Sometimes one needs a holiday from duties for a reset, I think Larry needs a break.
V8 Jellybean
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I always thought it was 'different' that there wasn't a forum as opposed to the mailing list.
Years ago I signed up for the list as a non-SHO owner, reading up on things.
Back then, I was on dial up and sported a webtv... now tell me how much fun THAT was! It was insane trying to keep up with it all. I came to a crossroads where I needed to clean up and strip down my files, so I quit the list so I could get on top of things. Then I just got into other interests.
Now, I'm back, with a SHO, broadband, and a Gmail acct set up with the list in mind... with a heads up from the previous owner that the Gmail was the way to fly with the list because each reply is set into the topic it was started under... so if it's not a topic you care to follow, you just delete the topic, and all the replies that go with it. It cleans things up a bit, that's for sure.
As a whole, I am partial to an actual forum though
Years ago I signed up for the list as a non-SHO owner, reading up on things.
Back then, I was on dial up and sported a webtv... now tell me how much fun THAT was! It was insane trying to keep up with it all. I came to a crossroads where I needed to clean up and strip down my files, so I quit the list so I could get on top of things. Then I just got into other interests.
Now, I'm back, with a SHO, broadband, and a Gmail acct set up with the list in mind... with a heads up from the previous owner that the Gmail was the way to fly with the list because each reply is set into the topic it was started under... so if it's not a topic you care to follow, you just delete the topic, and all the replies that go with it. It cleans things up a bit, that's for sure.
As a whole, I am partial to an actual forum though
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The list is back online as of 10:50 am.
E1
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Shoman594 said:
Nice looking car you got there in your sig, Sir.
Paul L Fisher
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E1 said:Nice looking car you got there in your sig, Sir.
What SHO's will you be bringing with you to the convention ?
E1
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I don't even know if I WANT to go to the convention at this point in time. Ask me again in June.
Thought about taking Barney and a PD Blower Eaton M90 96, now I'm not sure.
Thought about taking Barney and a PD Blower Eaton M90 96, now I'm not sure.
E1
Crash Tested
SHOZ123 said:
Something is Broke.
This isn't fun anymore.
This is supposed to be a light hearted hobby.
Maybe I'll go play with scoobies. BTDT long before they were cool, I had a 78 Brat.
E1 said:
You mean your M90 project is having problems?
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