Yes, my sho is somehow going through oil, about a quart every 2-3k miles. I fill it back up periodically but I still worry about this problem. The pan has some oil on it I see whenever I'm under the car, but I never see oil leaking to my garage floor. This makes me think it's burning oil, but I don't know what to do if that's the case. Any ideas of how to determine what's going on then what action to take? It's a 92 mtx w/117k on it. (I can't remember if that's in my sig or not)
Using oil...any ideas?
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SHOtimer
#2910
Your oil useage is perfectly normal for the SHO motor, don't worry about it at all. Also sounds like you have a minor oil leak should probably look into it as it will only get worse.
Doug
Doug
WTF? lol
Anyways back to the subject. When was the last time you had your 60k done? Even though you don't see any oil on your floor doesn't mean your oil pan, front main or rear main seal are still good.
Clean up your oil pan and then wait a week. Take another look at the pan and if either your oil pan, front main or rear main seal is bad, you will see the oil stains on your oil pan dripping down from either of these seals. Hope you can figure it out!
masho95
got Zex?
FWIW normal oil consumption after the first 10,000 miles of a car's life, is considered to be AT LEAST 900 miles per quart.
I'm 3rd owner on this car & the man who I bought it from who owned it the longest said all maintenance was always kept up, so I assume a 60k was done at...60k. I plan on having that done this summer or fall. btw, anyone know a good mechanic to have do this w/in semi-reasonable distance of western Ohio?
HopefulSHO
SHO Member
Wow - I wish my car only burned/lost that much oil. I go through a quart every 1k miles.
Some leaks, some burns. I know I got some leaky seals & some old valve stem seals too.
I wouldn't worry about your quart every 2-3k consumption. Just keep adding every so often & drive the **** out of it
Some leaks, some burns. I know I got some leaky seals & some old valve stem seals too.
I wouldn't worry about your quart every 2-3k consumption. Just keep adding every so often & drive the **** out of it
SHOtimer
#2910
Blue-by-U, do you find something funny? finger As HopefulSHO just said in his post that his SHO goes through oil from oil change to oil change. My personal car does not use a drop of oil between changes but their are many SHOs on this forum that do go through oil, some a lot and some none. Anyways back to the subject which is oil useage filc03 you need to isolate your oil leak and get it taken care of before you can really tell if your engine is burning oil enternally or leaking it out.
Doug
Doug
SHOtimer
#2910
As a concluding thought: I am not trying to be obnoxious or anything of that nature my point was the fact that SHO motors have been known to go through oil, this of course will vary some will use none and others with use a lot. This is oviously based on the condition of the engine, its prior history, and the way it is driven. That was all I was trying to say.
Doug
Doug
Dave Kegel
New Member
"Actually, NO its not. I have gone 3000 miles without my dipstick going down at all."
You're lucky, and I'd venture to say in the minority. Both my SHOs use oil. My '93 has always used about 1 quart every 3k miles, even when it only had 20k miles on it. My '90 uses 1 quart every 2k miles. Both are right around 100k miles. Neither leak. It's the valve guide seals. I bet if I drove either of them 3k miles without turning it off and restarting it, they'd probably not use any oil.
Dave Kegel
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You're lucky, and I'd venture to say in the minority. Both my SHOs use oil. My '93 has always used about 1 quart every 3k miles, even when it only had 20k miles on it. My '90 uses 1 quart every 2k miles. Both are right around 100k miles. Neither leak. It's the valve guide seals. I bet if I drove either of them 3k miles without turning it off and restarting it, they'd probably not use any oil.
Dave Kegel
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Doug
Don't take anything personal, especially in this forum. Filc03, you saw the responses, try to isolate the leak or just keep adding oil as needed.
BTW, use ONLY the stock motorcraft filter and either Castrol GTX, mobil 1, motorcraft oil, or amsoil.
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Don't take anything personal, especially in this forum. Filc03, you saw the responses, try to isolate the leak or just keep adding oil as needed.
BTW, use ONLY the stock motorcraft filter and either Castrol GTX, mobil 1, motorcraft oil, or amsoil.
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SHOtimer
#2910
I'm not taking anything personal just trying to have some fun with the best of them.. I also just wanted to get my point across and that was accomplished. So, that being said I think filc30 can gather his own thoughts from everyones opinion, isn't that the beauty of the forum. As a side note this forum would not be any fun if everyone took everything personally, or we at least wouldn't be able to use all of these fun smilies... wink
Doug
<small>[ June 11, 2003, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: SHOtimer ]</small>
I also just wanted to get my point across and that was accomplished. So, that being said I think filc30 can gather his own thoughts from everyones opinion, isn't that the beauty of the forum. As a side note this forum would not be any fun if everyone took everything personally, or we at least wouldn't be able to use all of these fun smilies... wink Doug
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masho95
got Zex?
Anyways I never said that cars don't burn more oil in the break in period. I was just stating what is considered normal oil usage AFTER the 10K mark.
HopefulSHO
SHO Member
If you want some real info on oil & filters, try this..
Bob Is The Oil Guy Messageboard
I use a larger filter than stock (FL-1A), still a Motorcraft, but I will be switching to a Napa Gold of the same crossreference.
Castrol GTX has shown in analysis to be a very good dino oil as long as you change it around 3k miles.
Bob Is The Oil Guy Messageboard
I use a larger filter than stock (FL-1A), still a Motorcraft, but I will be switching to a Napa Gold of the same crossreference.
Castrol GTX has shown in analysis to be a very good dino oil as long as you change it around 3k miles.
srfdude
SHO Member
masho where did you get this number? Ford (and other mans.) may tell you this, but I don't accept that as normal. Of course seals get tired after awhile, and rings will sludge/crud up. But its not "normal" as far as I am concerned; you can do something about it.
Mike
shojuan
New Member
The Bob is the Oil guy thread on filter testing is BS (unless things have changed in the month or so that I looked at it). It's comparing apples to oranges to test some small filters and come to the conclusion that the Mobil 1 filter causes too much of a pressure drop and then take those measurements and generalize for the entire Mobil 1 product line. I thought those guys were smarter than that. Just read Buford's filter writeup on shoclub.com and go with his recommendations. Those recommendations make sense for OUR cars. Until Bob takes the filters that will fit a SHO and tests those on his machine he and his friend built, please ignore his conclusions. Or at least question them seriously.
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shojuan
New Member
Yeah Mike is right. The 1000 mile per quart number is more to keep powertrain warranty claims down than anything. Sure that number should be good enough to get most engines (with an acceptable number of claims) past 100,000 miles. And my SHO burns 1000 miles per quart and I'm not too worried about it. When the engine goes then it's 3.2 swap time. I might try replacing the valve stem seals before then and I'm about a day or two away from starting an Auto-RX treatment (Nimz, I'm sending you the bill if that stuff ain't the holy water you claim it to be! j/k!
I've got high hopes for that stuff.)Ideal oil consumption in a non-rotary engine is as low as possible. But don't start flipping out until the number gets really really high. And then either do something about it or just live with it.
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