Upgrading the brakes... some advice needed AND given!

[SHOinVa]

LOL... dying because of cheap duralast rotors

LOL I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me or mocking me, or both.

 

[92BlackGT]

definitely not agreeing with you. laughing at the hyperbole and misinformation that seems to run rampant on this site. you will not die from cheap rotors bought at any auto parts store

 

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[SHOinVa]

definitely not agreeing with you. laughing at the hyperbole and misinformation that seems to run rampant on this site. you will not die from cheap rotors bought at any auto parts store

I was going to leave this alone BUT since you seem to be laughing at me, not with me then I feel the need to defend myself. Your statement above has some truth but lacks any context at all. I admit to taking some poetic license to make my point but I still have a valid point.

- First the context
The two statement made where "Buy the cheapest blank rotors you can find"and "Buy the cheapest blank rotors you can find, install them on your car an prove me wrong by having them fail"
- For the record I have several cars one of which is a 1999 Mercury Mystique which is my daily driver. I drive it everywhere but I seldom go over 80mph and if I had to replace the rotors on the Mercury I would probably buy a reasonably priced or even cheap replacement rotors. And you are right I am probably not going to have any issues.

My point was, and still is, I am not going to buy the cheapest of anything without doing some research, an since you take things very literally I will put it this way. I am not going to buy the cheapest rotors possible and have them fail (what ever that means) just to prove someone wrong. (ONCE AGAIN) What I am going to do is, Do my research an buy the best quality rotors I can afford for my SHO. Since you don't seem to understand why, unlike the Mercury which I barley see 80mph I often find myself going much faster in the SHO and having quality parts gives me piece of mind.
C/

 

[StealBlueSho]

They must have purchased cheap rotors.....


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[RonPorter]

And exactly how do you determine that inexpensive rotors {what I call "cheap") are inadequate and inferior? Do you send them out to have them analyzed and xrayed?

If you see the same size rotor for $35, one for $55, one for $75, and one for $100, how exactly do you know that all of those weren't made in the same factory somewhere, and aren't the same part?

Or that those $150 drilled/grooved/slotted/sprinkled with pixie dust rotors did not begin life as the same $35 Duralast blanks?

You don't.

Just like car batteries. There's only about 4 battery mfrs in the country. Yet there are hundreds of batteries sold at different price points. And people swear that one is so much better than the other.

As I said before, over 20+ years of track days the ONLY rotor failures I've seen have been with aftermarket rotors.

Rotors are the not the most important component of better brake capacity. But, you all seem to think differently. Advertising by vendors really has turned your brains to mush.

Do you also run a $500 CAI because it's "so much better" than the factory setup with a $35 filter? ;-)

 

[bpd1151]

If you see the same size rotor for $35, one for $55, one for $75, and one for $100, how exactly do you know that all of those weren't made in the same factory somewhere, and aren't the same part?

Or that those $150 drilled/grooved/slotted/sprinkled with pixie dust rotors did not begin life as the same $35 Duralast blanks?

You don't.

LOL @ the "pixie dust".

Oh Ronald....... I know when you are sprayed with pixie dust, you always somehow come out better than if not.

I mean look at you...... your smile radiates and exudes beyond the digital footprint which captured you here. This with just a small sampling of pixie dust peppered upon you.

Rawr you tiger...... go get you some!

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[Lostneye]

And exactly how do you determine that inexpensive rotors {what I call "cheap") are inadequate and inferior? Do you send them out to have them analyzed and xrayed?

If you see the same size rotor for $35, one for $55, one for $75, and one for $100, how exactly do you know that all of those weren't made in the same factory somewhere, and aren't the same part?

Or that those $150 drilled/grooved/slotted/sprinkled with pixie dust rotors did not begin life as the same $35 Duralast blanks?

You don't.

Just like car batteries. There's only about 4 battery mfrs in the country. Yet there are hundreds of batteries sold at different price points. And people swear that one is so much better than the other.

Agreed, which is why I typically stick to OEM replacements.

As I said before, over 20+ years of track days the ONLY rotor failures I've seen have been with aftermarket rotors.

Rotors are the not the most important component of better brake capacity. But, you all seem to think differently. Advertising by vendors really has turned your brains to mush.

Do you also run a $500 CAI because it's "so much better" than the factory setup with a $35 filter? ;-)

Buy the cheapest replacements you can find, but you have seen failures with aftermarket rotors? Do you mean aftermarket drilled/slotted, or aftermarket in general?

 

[Sgtmeatsauce1]

Some new info:
From Hawk site for 2013 Ford Taurus SHO
HPS 5.0
Front Brake Pad
PAD DESCRIPTION:

• Pushing the Limits of ABS
• Decreased stopping distances
• Improved pedal feel from initial pressure through entire pedal stroke
• Minimal fade under Higher Temps
• High friction/torque hot or cold
• Gentle on rotors
• Very quiet, low noise
• Improved braking over OE pads
• Extended pad life

Part#: HB826B.708
$129.56

More details

HPS 5.0
Rear Brake Pad
PAD DESCRIPTION:

• Pushing the Limits of ABS
• Decreased stopping distances
• Improved pedal feel from initial pressure through entire pedal stroke
• Minimal fade under Higher Temps
• High friction/torque hot or cold
• Gentle on rotors
• Very quiet, low noise
• Improved braking over OE pads
• Extended pad life

Part#: HB827B.653
$119.87

 

[RonPorter]

Better off with the Street/Race, which are improved HP+, if they're available for your application

http://www.hawkperformance.com/street-performance-compound-application

 

[SHOdded]

Street Race is listed for the 2013+ ...

Street Race
Front Brake Pad
Pad Description:

• Aggressive Torque
• Great Rotor and Pad Wear Life
• 100-1200°F Operating Temperatures
• Smooth and Predictable Control
• Designed to Deliver High Deceleration Rates
• Smooth Braking Feel
• Consistent Brake Release Characteristics

Hawk Performance - Race Proven, Street Legal
#whatsstoppingyou
Part#: HB826R.708
$149.00

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Street Race
Rear Brake Pad

Part#: HB827R.653
$137.85

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