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Toolman

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Dyno'd last night @ 6pm. It was still near 100F, not ideal, but I needed to dyno again before my upcoming open road race. The plan was to do a 15psi pull and then a 21psi pull. One problem, no race gas. I filled up with 91, not even thinking about the dyno. I could have squeezed a gallon of 104 in, but it would not have made much difference. So the high boost numbers will still have to wait. And honestly, even though my fuel pump is new, it is only a 190lph. I have a 255lph HP that I want to install before I do any more 20+psi runs.

Also, my 80mm Linc was indeed maxing out before I hit my HP peak. I take back what I said before about Linc MAF's. Looks like ~380whp is as much as they will meter on my car. So the Lightning 90 will be going in with the 255 pump soon, and then the high boost numbers everyone is waiting for will happen. Now on with it!

First run, 13psi, much less timing than before, and a lot less fuel. It worked, as the car pulled all the way to redline. 380some whp and 350tq, or there abouts. Datalogging with the tweecer is a dream come true. I could see what was going on in detail (inlet air temps were 126F @ 7000rpm, not bad). Also, my A/F was 10.5. I added some more timing, and some more boost. Wanted to be careful though, as I only had 91 octane.

Next run was the best, 14psi, 2degrees more timing. 390.5whp/365.6tq. It looked like the computer was actually pulling some timing out, I think in part because the car had a high speed shake, but who knows. My A/F also leaned out a bit from the first run, especially up top. @ 7300rpm, A/F was 11.0.

Not the numbers I was hoping for, but in reality, they are very good. With only a tad more boost (.5-1psi) over the other setup, I made the same power (390whp vs 388whp), but I also have a stock intake and BBB's. That extra restriction equals more boost but not really more power. Were I to replace the manifold with my EH/BBB one, I would likely see the same if not more HP, but due to the lesser restriction, at a lower boost level. But the best thing about last night is that I can now see that my 2.5" dp is NOT a restriction. The reason the old setup lost a lot of power up top was due to the small a/r T3 turbine. This new turbine is much bigger. Car pulled all the way to redline. The power comes on a little later, much smoother, and it just keeps going up.

So the future looks bright. With the 90mm, 255pump, 104unleaded race gas and 21psi, I think we will see some VERY good numbers. YamahaSHO will be in Nebraska for the road race, and he has offered to look at my tune. With a rock-solid tune and all of the above, (in addition to spraying my IC, which I will be hooking up soon), the sky is the limit. I may even throw on my EH/BBB intake for comparisons sake.

Anyway, those are the updates. Next up is to see how this car fares against the Corvettes and Vipers on Friday (the mile race, but 1/2 mile for - no cage)


And now with the scan:

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i got a question what kind of car typicly come with a 225 gph fuel pump

modified! :)

come on out to the Texas Mile in Oct and you'll see one! hahahha


Da' Toolman:

Your car really takes off up top. Can you post the dyno sheet? I'm curious to see how that thing takes off.

Sounds like you are seeing same boost measurable levels but pushing less air through the motor like you said.

What exhaust are you running back?
 

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Wow good to see that car up and running strong again! Makes me wanna get the sho bug again....

Here's hollerin at ya Tim!

Not dead yet!

LOL
 

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Wow good to see that car up and running strong again! Makes me wanna get the sho bug again....

Here's hollerin at ya Tim!

Not dead yet!

LOL

Jeremy when you gonna arise from the dead and bring that Mustang out for us to beat up on?!?!?! :thumb:

Hope you doing well buddy.
 

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He has low comp pistons. Everything else motor wise is stock. which i think is very impressive for this motor. Shows it was built right and can still gobble up some more boost if he turned it up. Can't wait to see the #'s when he does!!

Nice #'s Tim. That would be awesome to have as a weekend racer
 

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No need for the 90mm, just put a MAFia on the 80mm.
Like the MAF Xtender and similar products that went before it, the Diablosport MAFia is yet another supplemental band-aid product that is completely unnecessary when you have a proper tuning device and a precalibrated MAF that is capable of handling the airflow needs of you motor. Since Tim already has both of these things, I would think the point is already moot.

Don't waste your time with the MAFia.
 

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Thanks guys. The sheet will be up soon. It is a lot broader than I thought it would be. IMO, the old T3/4 60-1 I had was perfect for a stock engine looking for 350whp. This turbo is good for the modified engine looking for 500whp. The old one was actually a bit funner for street driving, as the boost (and hence TQ) come on quicker. This car, you really are not much faster than a bolt-on SHO below 4000rpm. But it really is nice that I can pull all the way to redline now though, whereas the old car went rather dead after 6000rpm. I suspect I will be able to massage this trans to a lot longer life, due to the much gentler TQ curve.

Oh, and I mistyped Kurt, I meant unleaded. 104 is the highest I can get here in unleaded ($6.70 a G though!!).

The next time I log on, I will post my 1/2 mile trap speeds. Looking forward to Friday!! (and the car will have 104octane and 21psi!!)

TT
 

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Like the MAF Xtender and similar products that went before it, the Diablosport MAFia is yet another supplemental band-aid product that is completely unnecessary when you have a proper tuning device and a precalibrated MAF that is capable of handling the airflow needs of you motor. Since Tim already has both of these things, I would think the point is already moot.

Don't waste your time with the MAFia.

Sorry, I disagree. The MAF is just air flow and voltage. If the housing being used is not an airflow restriction, there is nothing wrong with using an extender device on the electronics. I would much prefer to use a housing that suits the application size with an extender on it, than to go to a MAF with such a larger housing that it doesn't flow well with the ducting, just to get extra range. Putting a 4" MAF in 2.5" ducting is rediculous.

Using the MAFia is no different than putting on a different MAF. It's just voltage back to the PCM. Both methods require proper calibration adjustments, and both methods do the same thing.
 

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Sorry, I disagree. The MAF is just air flow and voltage. If the housing being used is not an airflow restriction, there is nothing wrong with using an extender device on the electronics. I would much prefer to use a housing that suits the application size with an extender on it, than to go to a MAF with such a larger housing that it doesn't flow well with the ducting, just to get extra range. Putting a 4" MAF in 2.5" ducting is rediculous.

Using the MAFia is no different than putting on a different MAF. It's just voltage back to the PCM. Both methods require proper calibration adjustments, and both methods do the same thing.



i see where this is going already.
 

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