Update on the Green Machine

[dantheman68]

So today i just receieved my ALSFB (decided to go with them obviously) AND shipped my tranny out to Bizzy for the rebuild, im getting very excited to finally getting my SHO back on the road and just thought id update my progress...

Ive got ALSFB here (with a recall kit), a spec stage II clutch on the way, new rod bearings and oil pan gasket (in the car), New thermostat, and the rebuilt tranny coming....

i still need an alternator... looking at bout 80-100 from autozone (i wish i didnt need the 130 amp one... the other MTX alternators are a dime a dozen)


Luke if you read this, hows your car coming?

 

[black92]

Dan,
If you need an alternator I would suggest buying a new one. They usually come with lifetime warranties. Unless you can get one for $20 I would just buy a new one.

 

[dantheman68]

a brand new one... sometimes the rebuilt ones come with lifetimes too don't they? i just need one that will get me back on the road for now... if i could find a used one that worked i would buy it

 

[black92]

I should have clarified. New ones are rebuilt/remanufactured ones.

 

[MilTownSHO]

If you buy one from Autozone, Checker, Advance Auto, etc.


GET IT TESTED BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE STORE!

I ended up putting three alternators in my old red 92 in a week because they were bad right from leaving the store!

 

[dantheman68]

hah yeah autozone isnt my favorite... but they have the cheapest one and i know that i get what i pay for... im way over budget on this repair...


PS. Adam that tranny I bought from you... did you ever open it up?

 

[black92]

No I never opened it. Why?

 

[dantheman68]

well its hard for me to say... i sent it to bizzy for a reseal/reinforced... heres what she found...

I worked on your trans this afternoon. There are a few concerns that you need to address before I go any further with it.

This trans has been open before. Whoever opened it sealed it back with black RTV. That's a big no-no in tranny land because it hardens (rubbery hard) inside the case (when the case halves are put together it squeezes some on the inside and outside) and eventually the rubbery pieces make their way up into the gear shafts which plug the oiling holes in the shafts.

I noticed when opening the trans that it was sealed with RTV so I knew that there would be some extra cleaning I'd have to do to it in order for it to be 100%. I also noted that the trans was stuck in gear, I wasn't able to put it into neutral prior to opening the case, but it wasn't any real big deal because it happens sometimes. It's just easier to disassemble when it's in neutral. However, why it was stuck in gear is another story.

In this picture you can see where the RTV was squeezed out on the inside of the case. You can also see RTV pieces near the bearing race in the top half of the case.

When I disassembled the main gear shaft I found that RTV had indeed worked it's way up into the shaft and had completely plugged the oiling holes for 3rd gear, 3/4 synchro and blocking rings and 4th gear. The bearing also has RTV stuck in it, however it doesn't look to be damaged and can be cleaned out with no problem.

The 3/4 synchro is toast. You also have all brass blocking rings so this trans is originally out of an 89 SHO. The 3/4 synchro has burrs on it from not being oiled properly so it can't be reused. This is also why the trans was stuck in gear. The lack of oiling has also caused some damage to the blocking rings as well.

RTV:

This actually has to be one of the largest masses I've ever removed from a gear shaft in my years of rebuilding.

One of the rivets that holds the ring gear on is damaged. I'm not sure what caused this damage, I don't see in a large pieces of metal anywhere inside. It would take a LOT to do this kind of damage to a rivet, they're very hard. This won't cause any problems, but I wanted you to be aware of it.

eh i edited alot of the fluff out... but basically she said she was surprised that it didnt blow already... and that was surprised that it shifted before...


no hard feelings though... bizzy's taking care of it i just wanted to know if you had opened it or not and maybe you knew why the rivet was damaged (probably the same reason it was opened up)

 

[phreaksho]

hey dan yeah i dun wanna say the progress of my car in case everything doesnt go right and i wanna surprise some people on the forum lol but hey looking good and no major problems yet so hopefully soon.... hehe i did end up buying the dual friction and lightweight flywheel and then other parts will be arriving soon. hope everything goes well when ur tranny comes back l8az man

 

[black92]

Dan, I got that transmissions from a car that was being put back together. The previous spent a lot of time swaping motors etc... to get the car back on the street. He didnt have the time to finish and I wanted it for parts so I bought it and parted it out. That trans hasnt been in a running car for years, but both I and the previous owner thought it was still good. Anyways Im sorry you ran into some problems but Im glad you/Bizzy found them before the tranny blew.

 

[dantheman68]

yeah thats kinda what i thought, the guy before you, but yeah... shes taking care of me and im pretty happy with it, so like i said no hard feelings or anything... i cant wait to get this back on the road...


oh and i see youve got some big secrets...

and if i can find a catless y im doin that to but no luck so far

sigs arent the best place for secrets


edit: did you check bittersweet SHO?

 

[TS Regulator]

Adam with a catless y is a secret?... How's my y pipe treating you (Adam) btw?
Mike

 

[Michelle]

Adam with a catless y is a secret?... How's my y pipe treating you (Adam) btw?
Mike

It passed on Friday!

 

[black92]

Friday afternoon I removed the catless and installed the stock one. Ran to emissions and passed. I washed the car while it was cooling off and then removed the stock one and put the catless back on. It took me 30 minutes to pull the stock one off and put the catless back on. I guess when you do a dozen times you get good at it.

Mike how much do you want for the stock y-pipe? I think I might want to keep it.

 

[phreaksho]

the catless isnt a secret lol just when my car is gunna be done cuz i keep saying... and im just gunna shut up cuz things arent going how i want them lol.... my parts come 4 days late and run into more problems but hey all i can say is soon.... very soon... i kinda gave up on searching for a catless y lol if i run into one at a good price ill take it up but im not lookin anymore

 

[phreaksho]

lol dan just wonderin how ur car is doing if u got ur tranny back or what...? and then to let ya know i just started install tonight... lol got the tranny all bolted up and thats about as far as im going tonight since i got other things to do lol yeah i know what could be more important than getting the sho working agian... lol i just cant tell hehe. but **** im looking for it to be finished on sunday and then was wonderin if ur car would be done around 2 weeks and we could head out to the drive in or something lol talk to ya later

 

[dantheman68]

yeah ive got the tranny back... waiting on the clutch... as i was replacing the rear main seal i found out that i have to remove the oil pan again to get the backing plate or some piece off, got that done...

now i have to reseal the oil pan and buy 5 more qts of oil...

kinda ran into trouble with my flywheel too... i broke two of the pins off, left the thrid and found out that the shop takes them out while resurfacing... drilled the two pins out and the 1/4" pins i bought dont fit (too big of holes) now i have to figure out what im gonna do with that... i was thinking coldweld, but someone said that would throw off the balance of the flywheel... idk...

 

[phreaksho]

dude if urs isnt resurfaced u can trade me for myne or if u want my dad has a dowel pin machine thing to press the pins and lots of different sized pins... lol we put the dowels in my fidanza... so he could easily do it for you. i got most of the stuff done on my sho tonight... and painted my subframe hehe with a nice coat of rustproofer. i also changed to synthetic while i was under there... now i just got to figure out what im going to do with my broken shift linkage thingy.... i really dont know where this broken piece came from but if i figure it out i will most likely have it running tommorow awww wait i mean today i hope ur clutch comes soon man that sux having to wait for that group buy one other thing if anyone knows of a rod shifter for less than 100 dollars in wisconsin i need it and need it soon!!! or if u know of any junkyards with an mtx maybe i could rip one out of that

 

[dantheman68]

i have the linkage for a cable shifter, the part that attaches to the tranny right?!... i bought adam's 89 tranny with it all on there and i dont need it obviously...

ill send you a PM too...

 

[phreaksho]

i need a damn rod shifter!!! lol or my car wont be running all i need to do is hook that up and im good but no... i cant find a rod
shifter anywhere.... called like 10 different junk yards and no luck if ANYONE has one i need it immediatly so i can finally drive my car and what about ur flywheel dan?