supercharger/turbo 411

[Jonny Cash]

Is your car even worth doing those kind of mods to? Does it have rust, leaks, maintnence isuues? You really need to consider these things. Its cool to throw ideas out there, but you gotta realize that these guys see noobs come and go asking the same questions... and never do anything but dissapear, and sell their SHO.

I think you gotta research a little more instead of just throw simple questions out there. Nobody is gonna take you seriously if you just buy a cheap sho and just start daydreaming. The search button is indeed a handy little fellow...

 

[SuperchargedSHOguy]

If you are paying over 5k for a single custom turbo install, you are getting ripped off in a big way.

Build one and sell if for cheaper then if you think so...

 

[1stSHO]

Build one and sell if for cheaper then if you think so...

 

[GeneSHO]

everyones just droppin the bomb on me
lol

:cry:

List of priorities:

A) Maintenance

B) Suspension

C) Brakes + Tires

D) All of the above

E) If you still have $$$ left over then use the SEARCH FUNCTION :wave:

F) All the feedback you received from all the member on the SHOForum are trying to help you. But if you are not specific on your question, please be prepare yourself for the kaboom

 

[Toolman]

If you are paying over 5k for a single custom turbo install, you are getting ripped off in a big way.

If you will do it for less I will pay otu to turbo my other SHO's.

Once you figure in tc, piping, MAF, fuel issues, WG, BOV, IC, and all the fab work, 5k is a STEAL! Even on a mass-produced kit for a Mustang.

 

[UnderPSI]

If you will do it for less I will pay otu to turbo my other SHO's.

Once you figure in tc, piping, MAF, fuel issues, WG, BOV, IC, and all the fab work, 5k is a STEAL! Even on a mass-produced kit for a Mustang.

For a begginer kit, say 7psi single, parts alone will be under 2k. Is 2 days worth of work, worth 3k? I don't think so. I put twin T4's on my 'stang for less than 2k. The turbos and wastegates were 1k new.

 

[SHOMurph]

motor mounts, tuning, injectors, fuel pump, clutch, gauges........

does the kids really need to go to college?

 

[Toolman]

For a begginer kit, say 7psi single, parts alone will be under 2k. Is 2 days worth of work, worth 3k? I don't think so. I put twin T4's on my 'stang for less than 2k. The turbos and wastegates were 1k new.

Well, the offer still stands. I will give you 5k to turbo my SHO. Turbonetics 60-1, TiAl WG and BOV, Tweecer and Greddy BC will run you around $2100. Then you have the MAF (80 or 90mm Lightning), injectors (48lb Accel), fuel system (upgraded pump and regulator), oil filter relocator, intercooler, piping, and all the custom fab work (do you do the welding yourself, or do you have it outsourced?). BTW, if you can produce a custom pipe set for a turbo SHO in 2 days time, then you should get busy, because there will be a long line behind me for your setup.

Excuse me if I sound sarcastic, but I am not buying it, not until I see the proof.

Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

 

[UnderPSI]

That is a complete tuner kit. I would not offer the tweeker or greddy anything with the kit. A simple low boost setup, designed to be expanded on as the need for more power arises. And yes, I weld. Stick mig tig dual shield and flux core

 

[SuperchargedSHOguy]

That is a complete tuner kit. I would not offer the tweeker or greddy anything with the kit. A simple low boost setup, designed to be expanded on as the need for more power arises. And yes, I weld. Stick mig tig dual shield and flux core

Without a tuning devide (LPM, TwEECER) and real fuel upgrades you are still in the dark.

 

[Toolman]

That is a complete tuner kit. I would not offer the tweeker or greddy anything with the kit. A simple low boost setup, designed to be expanded on as the need for more power arises. And yes, I weld. Stick mig tig dual shield and flux core

'Complete' to me means I drop the car off and when I pick it up it is running like a champ, tuned and ready to go. I could drop a cheap pipe kit with a bargain turbo into a SHO for next to nothing. Run some oil and vac lines and call it a day. That is the easy part. Does no good for the end user, as I have left him with the hard part.

Like I have been saying for years, if you are going to the trouble to turbo your SHO, do it right. Spending an extra thousand or two now will save you much in the future, and will insure you have a solid running car for years to come.

I guess our philosophy on the matter is just different, thats all. Still though, fabricating a quality tubing set for the SHO is not small task. UNlike you, I am not confident that this is a day project.

 

[UnderPSI]

I think a complete package is the way to go, but as of yet, I haven't seen anyone standing in line to buy a turbo kit for 7k or more. There really isn't a market for that type of kit on this type of car.

 

[Toolman]

I think a complete package is the way to go, but as of yet, I haven't seen anyone standing in line to buy a turbo kit for 7k or more. There really isn't a market for that type of kit on this type of car.

As far as I have seen, there is NO market for any kit for this car. Sad too, because so many go SC. FWIW, I think I will be doing a few turbo SHO's in the future. 7k is a little on the high side. With the parts I mentioned, all with enough gusto to expand to a 15psi monster in the future (once the owner has made the proper modifications to the rest of the engine/drivetrain), for a little over 5k installed. Once its in, the owner is done. No further modifications to the turbo system will be needed, and he can have a true 500hp SHO. And no 500hp SHO comes cheap.

 

[kevingotashotoo]

well i just finished doing some searching,and what it all comes down to ,is what
set-up will best suit me,

as for the maintenance,suspension and all of the above,i am up to date with that
most of the sensors are replaced,fluids are awesome..all possible problems are gone
(except for these damn bosch sparkplugs)

if i get the chance one day,i think ill start with a stage one supercharger

anyways just wanted to know what systems you guys are running

 

[kevingotashotoo]

Is your car even worth doing those kind of mods to? Does it have rust, leaks, maintnence isuues? You really need to consider these things. Its cool to throw ideas out there, but you gotta realize that these guys see noobs come and go asking the same questions... and never do anything but dissapear, and sell their SHO.

I think you gotta research a little more instead of just throw simple questions out there. Nobody is gonna take you seriously if you just buy a cheap sho and just start daydreaming. The search button is indeed a handy little fellow...

personally in my opinion my SHO is worth something to do to,have no maintanence issue what so ever in the thought of smoking oil,leaking coolant or any other whatsoever
i plan on actually buying a 2nd one in the near future.....
i think doing this to my car will just be an extra bonus
my intention on anything is to have something different and not to have some cookie cutter, its not to often i see
a S/C'd SHO fly by me

besides i think the only thing concerning me is finding the time to install it
having 4 members in my family being mechanics(which i dont know why i posted this topic,but then again comes down to first hand experience by actual SHO owners)

i dont expect to have a supercharged SHO within a week,im aware that stuff takes time[edit]

sorry for ramblin on

 

[SHO--ripper]

What do you guys think of a turbo kit for $3750?

 

[kevingotashotoo]

What do you guys think of a turbo kit for $3750?

i wish that was in CDN,wats the catch with it?

 

[Jarrod]

As far as I have seen, there is NO market for any kit for this car. Sad too, because so many go SC. FWIW, I think I will be doing a few turbo SHO's in the future. 7k is a little on the high side. With the parts I mentioned, all with enough gusto to expand to a 15psi monster in the future (once the owner has made the proper modifications to the rest of the engine/drivetrain), for a little over 5k installed. Once its in, the owner is done. No further modifications to the turbo system will be needed, and he can have a true 500hp SHO. And not 500hp SHO comes cheap.

Can Oklahoma members get a discount? lol

 

[SHO--ripper]

No catch. If you're serious about turboing your SHO i can do $4200 CDN. P.M me for more details.

 

[celticsam]

Not that hard

OK, I'm new here. However, having read through this thread, I do have a few suggestions first. First...

I have built from the ground up 2 turbocharged Fieros...one of which I got into the mid 12's on a stock bottom end (12.63 to be exact) without a bottle. There a a few pics of my last one floating around the web (and I have a few, of course), and, AFAIK, the car is still cruising the Shrewsberry PA area with the guy who bought it from me.

that said, the SHO lends itself perfectly to boosted operations. At moderate boost, and with the small amount of timing overlap, nice power gains can (and are) expected. My plan? 1994 GL wagon...with a '94 3.2 SHO swap (already havce the cradle, engine, tranny, ect...), 3.0 intake cams, and a Garrett T3/T4 hybrid (sitting on my workbench for rebuild now) with a 10# wastegate, 12# blowoff valve, ect... With the LPM remodulated, I am looking for a reliable 300 hp daily driver. Oh...5K is beyond rediculious if you do the work yourself. My second Fiero cost me $1800. Done. Used parts where available, and no frills. Learn to weld. Be patient. Take it slow. Oh, and in a case like the SHO where few have been done, expect parts breakage.

Neil Samuels
Littlestown, PA