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arffam1

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Does anyone know where I can get polyurethane sub frame bushings I have read about the solid bushing, and although they perform better I am concern with the negatives that go along with them, I dont race my car I woulf like to keep some of my stock ride. My car is a 1991 Sho.


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Albert
 

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There are no poly bushings for the sub frame,and i`m not sure it would even be a suitable material for the task.Your choices are stock,stock Gen III rear all around,aluminum,and delrin.
Fwiw,i noticed no ill affects from the aluminum,although others have gotten some vibration.
 

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The aluminum bushings do not affect the ride, but there is a small increase in transmission of engine and possibly steering rack noise into the passenger compartment. They will sharpen the handling and transient response.
 

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It's a very tough plastic type of material - pretty cool stuff.

Delrin® acetal resin emerged from DuPont's efforts to capitalize on the success of nylon and the growing post World War II market for plastics and other synthetic materials. Efforts to develop a tough and heat resistant metal substitute began in the early 1950s, and by 1952 chemists in the Polychemicals Department had synthesized an inflexible polymer from formaldehyde that assistant research director Frank C. McGrew called "synthetic stone" and DuPont named Delrin®.

After four years of development DuPont patented Delrin® in 1956 and began construction of a 20-million pound annual-capacity production plant at Parkersburg, West Virginia, completed in 1960. As manufacture commenced, total research and development costs for the project topped $50 million dollars. DuPont fully expected to recover these costs by marketing Delrin® as a general substitute for nonferrous metals, but a patent dispute and stiff competition held profitability down. As a result, DuPont focused subsequent research efforts on more sophisticated and specialized engineering polymers.

Despite its troubled beginnings, Delrin® thrived in the long run and has been steadily improved over the years. Today, Delrin® is a mainstay of DuPont's engineering polymers line and is widely acclaimed as a lightweight but durable low wear, low friction plastic for electronic office equipment, advanced conveyor technology, and automotive applications.
 

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Two things i wannt to touch upon.I beleive Scott`s opinion of the aluminum bushings is too general.Only some of the SHO`s experience a slight increase in noise/vibration.Many others,mine included,see ANY noive or vibration of any kind.I beleive the difference is the state of the suspension on any given car.
The other thing is the delrin.I have personal experience with it`s properties,as i and a CNC machinist by trade and have worked with it before.I do not feel it is a suitable material for bushings such as these.It will crack under pressure,and will not weather well.Also,it needs to be retorqued once per month.This is because it is a soft material,which doesn`t seem to be a safe option.

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Just another opinion here.
I just installed my aluminim SBF's.
I found I can hear a slight increase in engine noise at an idle. Not when driving.

I can feel the crappy cheap brake pads I have when applied, and I feel bumps a little more.

These are very slight sound and feel increases. I am very picky about sacraficing comfort for performance.

My original bushings were completly shot.

The pros for me are:
An increase in a sports car feel.
Much better handling at higher speeds.
No more clunk on quick stops and starts.
Definatly a noticable stiffer take off(my old ones were hammered).

-Carl
 

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jthomas68:
Two things i wannt to touch upon.I beleive Scott`s opinion of the aluminum bushings is too general.Only some of the SHO`s experience a slight increase in noise/vibration.Many others,mine included,see ANY noive or vibration of any kind.I beleive the difference is the state of the suspension on any given car.
The other thing is the delrin.I have personal experience with it`s properties,as i and a CNC machinist by trade and have worked with it before.I do not feel it is a suitable material for bushings such as these.It will crack under pressure,and will not weather well.Also,it needs to be retorqued once per month.This is because it is a soft material,which doesn`t seem to be a safe option.
I concour with this statment, my $.02
 

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jthomas68:
Two things i wannt to touch upon.I beleive Scott`s opinion of the aluminum bushings is too general.Only some of the SHO`s experience a slight increase in noise/vibration.Many others,mine included,see ANY noive or vibration of any kind.I beleive the difference is the state of the suspension on any given car.
The other thing is the delrin.I have personal experience with it`s properties,as i and a CNC machinist by trade and have worked with it before.I do not feel it is a suitable material for bushings such as these.It will crack under pressure,and will not weather well.Also,it needs to be retorqued once per month.This is because it is a soft material,which doesn`t seem to be a safe option.
I've been running with Delrin's for a couple of years now. So far, they are fine with no loosening or cracking. One idem I added was a big washer to go with the bolt to distribute the load on the bushing.
 

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Are the police bushings for sale on SHOnutperformance made of delrin? How are the gen. 3 bushings?
 

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SHO--ripper:
Are the police bushings for sale on SHOnutperformance made of delrin?
No, they have a denser rubber compound than the stock one's and they have blue paint on them. Last time I checked, police bushings where cheaper than stock ones from Ford.
 

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I put gen 3 bushings on my 90 and am pretty pleased with them. I think I am going to put aluminum on my next car though.
 
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