So who's gonna be the guinea pig?

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Wess

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http://www.ststurbo.com/how_it_works

I called these guys and they have a universal kit. You just need to get someone to bend the tubes for you. You can get the kit for the low price of $3K. Not sure about the idea of my air filter and turbo charger bolted precariously to the under carriage though, epecially for those lowered SHOs. It might be good for track applications.
 

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I wonder how well the stock programming will work with 5 psi of boost...
 

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well..it looks like they work on f-body's..lol

someone needs to pony up and try it..

I know it was discussed in another thread that heat plays a big factor in how well a turbo works, and a lot of heat is lost as the exhaust gases travel through the system..in that case..wouldnt some high temp thermosleeve (or something along the lines) wrapped around the exhaust piping reduce the amount of heat shed off into the atmosphere?
 

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hey guys, just my two cents: 1) i think the lag will be quite high not because of the spool time but because of the time required for the turbo to pressurize the entire plumbing from turbo to intake ( about 8 or so feet???) as opposed to an engine mounted turbo needing to only fill a small volume. 2) will deffinately run much cooler since exhaust gasses have time to cool off as they travel back AND the intake air has time to cool off as it travels to the engine. 3) is it possible to mount the air intake somewhere in the trunk??
 

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dmjarosz said:
hey guys, just my two cents: 1) i think the lag will be quite high not because of the spool time but because of the time required for the turbo to pressurize the entire plumbing from turbo to intake ( about 8 or so feet???) as opposed to an engine mounted turbo needing to only fill a small volume. 2) will deffinately run much cooler since exhaust gasses have time to cool off as they travel back AND the intake air has time to cool off as it travels to the engine. 3) is it possible to mount the air intake somewhere in the trunk??

I think we're talking milliseconds though. It doesn't take that long for spent fuel gases to expand and when you stomp on it there is only one direction they can go. I don't think it takes that long.
 
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that is what i am thinking, lag will or should be close to a remote turbo that sits near the engine with the only differene is that the plumbing would not be so complicated. but straight forward.
 

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while we're just daydreaming here..if i had the system, i'd have the intake piping running forwards from the turbo pass through the AC evaporator up inside the dash..then leave the AC on allllll the time :naughty:

ok, so maybe that was a stupid idea :bonk:

hmm..didnt the last lightning concept use somekind of AC system to cool the air charge?
 

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shoteen95 said:
while we're just daydreaming here..if i had the system, i'd have the intake piping running forwards from the turbo pass through the AC evaporator up inside the dash..then leave the AC on allllll the time :naughty:

ok, so maybe that was a stupid idea :bonk:

hmm..didnt the last lightning concept use somekind of AC system to cool the air charge?
Indeed it did... I don't know the specifics though.
 

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Indeed it did... I don't know the specifics though.

It ran the ac to chill a container of antifreeze which was then injected in the (air to water ) intercooler to cool the air to around 30* or so.... something like that. Pretty cool system. Supposedly gave it another 50 hp or so....
 

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I know there were a few companies that have been using the Generation 3 Lightning intercooler concept for a while now. Here is a link I found real quick for one company but there is several. http://www.coolflow.com/ There was one But I can't find it right now that had a real nice website with pictures of the complete kit for our trucks.
 

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I used a PWR unit. Here is a pic before all the liquid lines were connected.
MVC 301F
The lines run under the car to the reservior and pump in the trunk. The other side of the pump runs to a Power Strokes Transmission cooler that I scavenged as the liquids radiator which is mounted in the lower portion of the grill. Barely fits but it looks like it belongs.
 

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Those new turbos are the **** . The owner of our local speed shop put one on his new GTO and he can`t wipe the smirk off his face .
He has been a SC and Turbo expert for many years now .
I was talking w/him the other night about super charging vss turbos for my 96 at a spot we all meet at and he couldn`t stop raving about the system . The only real drawback he could state and only a guess is the longevity of the unit under the car . He has takin extra steps using alluminum here and there to aid in protecting and dissapating heat .
I think I`m going to give it a wirl (pardon the punn) .
The only draw backs we see for the SHO application is the return pipe routing causing excesive heat (thus the aluminum shield usage) , but both aggree a turbo under the hood would be a worse senario . The batt will have to go to the rear for sure .
My cowl flows good and will aid greatly for the added under hood temp .
I`ll keep all posted , when I start the project . he is working on getting me the rig at costs as he is going to start selling them . They are the talk right now .
That GTO runs mid 12s now w/just the Turbo , larger injectors , HP pump , and tuning .
 
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