SHO died, PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

[DJ SHO]

My car has the symptoms of bad timing, due to probably jumped teeth, loosed tension, etc.

Car was running fine, jumped on it in third gear and pulled up to like 5k rpms, and it started loosing power. Go back to fourth gear, fine again. Go back to third and up to 5-6k again, same power loss. So, put in fifth and started thinking maybe oil in the plugs again or something. A few minutes go by and the power loss appeared at lower rpms, and some occational bucking/sputtering. Then I barely could accelate below 4k rpms. So I downshifted so I could pull in the gas station. Couldn't get it started at all. Towed her home with my buddy's truck at 3 in the morning. cry

So today I changed the fuel filter. No change. SLOSHO pushed my car up to 25 or so, I popped it, and got it running. Floored, going 15 mph in first. Drove it around trying to see if it would clear up. After about 3 minutes , it finally rose up in rpm to near 4k. Seconadaries opened, and the car broke loose like a ***** ape. Full power from 4-6k and then power loss again. SO I pull it in the driveway. It has sat there for a couple hours and I looked under it, and there's a little puddle of greenish/brownish gooey liquid near the back of the motor (more brown than green - with no odor). So I'm puzzled about the leak, but do my other symtoms sound like a skipped tooth or loose tension of the timing belt? Motor just turned 160k last week. No 60k's done to my knowledge. Could be the original timing belt for all I know. I'm gonna start pulling the belts and stuff in a little bit and pull the timing cover off. Any ideas? TIA

<small>[ July 09, 2003, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: DJ SHO ]</small>

 

[Slo-Sho]

Um, did you change the CPS? Everyone always says it's the CPS. thumb Did you pull the codes, they always tell all. boink

<small>[ July 06, 2003, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Slo-Sho ]</small>

 

[DJ SHO]

Slo-Sho:
Um, did you change the CPS? Everyone always says it's the CPS. Did you pull the codes, they always tell all.

DAMN YOU!!


No Codes present. And obviously can't do a KOER test.

<small>[ July 06, 2003, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: DJ SHO ]</small>

 

[Machspeed]

Sounds like it might be a cps? My car lost power at lwer rpms and it sputtered and almost died.

 

[Slo-Sho]

FOR SHO:
Sounds like it might be a cps? My car lost power at lower rpms and it sputtered and almost died.

Never fails. finger

 

[DJ SHO]

Please people, I need help with this porblem. And like many people have already told others, a bad CPS doesn't give you any sputtering symptoms. You may think it's sputtering because it happens quickly, but a bad CPS means the motor is like it gets shut off.

 

[Machspeed]

Actually, a cps can cause stutering. I changed mine and my sputerring went away.

 

[TYSHO]

Get under your car or look under at those CV boots as to where that brownish/greenish crap is coming from. When I changed mine last week, it was brownish and old as **** and cought in time.

 

[DJ SHO]

FOR SHO:
Actually, a cps can cause stutering. I changed mine and my sputerring went away.

Maybe it's different on MTXs. I remember when mine was bad on the ATX, it would just shut off, come back on, shut off, etc. Thanks for the responses so far, gonna check everything out tonight.

 

[Machspeed]

Good luck buddy. SHOs can be a pain. It could be different because tyler (shonuff93) had the same problem.

 

[SHO--ripper]

DJ i agree with you. My CPS just caused my car to shut off. No sputtering. Good luck with the car and check the timing belt. There is a good possibility that's your problem.

 

[jthomas68]

Because the CPS doesn`t thorw a specific code,the all clear tells nothing.I know you were just messing with the tensioners recently.You could have popped the clip and lost timing belt tension.The best bet is to remove the convers and redo the timing and tension.That will rule out one problem.The CPS can be checked by seeing if the tech moves when cranking/sputtering.If it`s at zero,the cps is bad.
The green/brown liquid is most likely a coolant leak(you also did a radiator swap recently),picking up old oil while it runs down the motor/subframe.

<small>[ July 06, 2003, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: jthomas68 ]</small>

 

[Yamaha V6]

Tried the old plugged catalytic convertor yet? Just a thought, since the more you try to push air through a restriction (higher revs), the more backpressure you get. Good luck man.

 

[DJ SHO]

Yamaha V6:
Tried the old plugged catalytic convertor yet? Just a thought, since the more you try to push air through a restriction (higher revs), the more backpressure you get. Good luck man.

No haven't tried that one. Just got off the phone with Jeremy, he said it sounds like Crank Cancer, and you'd know how I could deal with this. If it is CC, I'm gonna blow this thing up.

 

[Yamaha V6]

CC is worse at low rpms, not high rpms - opposite of what you mention.

And yeah, I have had first-hand experience with it. Yuck.

 

[DJ SHO]

If it was a clogged cat, wouldn't it happen over time? I haven't noticed any dip in power unitil the other night, when this all happened? It was sudden.

 

[DJ SHO]

ANyone?

 

[rendyx]

Just an odd thought, could the SHO have pulled cat chunks, and they're stuck inside the motor(partial failure), but not yet to the cylinder (full failure)?

 

[jelloslug]

It's that digital cluster . Seriously it sounds like the timing is off. Pull off the upper cover and check it out.

 

[AutoSHO]

rendyx:
Just an odd thought, could the SHO have pulled cat chunks, and they're stuck inside the motor(partial failure), but not yet to the cylinder (full failure)?

Not really plausible, since if they get to the motor, its going to fail. There isn't anywhere they can get stuck in-between to cause a problem.