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How far it detects depends on the area and most importantly the strength of the radar signal. I typically get a 3-5 mile range here in flat Illinois when the radar is turned on at full strength.

Of course a wise cop will hit you with the pulse/instant on. Here you have to count on them hitting a car in front of you with radar.
 

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97V8SHO:
SHOZ123, So do you have the V1?
I would have nothing less.

Aside from their outstanding detection range the directional arrows are what make the VAL 1 superior. when the radar is coming from behind or in front or off to the sides. They also have a counter that tells you how many unique radar signals are being received.
 

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Is there anything different about the passport 8500 and the V1 other than the arrows?
 

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97V8SHO:
Is there anything different about the passport 8500 and the V1 other than the arrows?
Well, yes. You can see the general features of each by visiting their respective web sites and comparing there. The 8500 has a lot of info in its display as well, including how many signals are being detected, which band, where they are in the band, etc. More info than you'll use or need, IMHO.

In my opinion the only real info you need is strength and band, and most detectors give you that info in audio cues so that you don't have to look at a display. When you get an unexpected audio cue, you slow down, period. If you wait and take the time to sample the displays, you've lost the advantage of early warning.

From that perspective the performance of the rf electronics is perhaps more important than the displays, but definitely compare them and see what you like. I've owned Escorts forever, one in each vehicle now, with no regrets.

One thing that is kinda cool with the Escorts, though, is the informational text that occassionally shows up on the display. Once in a while mine will make some unusual beep and the display will say something completely unexpected like "High Winds", and it was right! It will detect and discern various road hazard warnings and display the appropriate text for that warning. I'm not sure that this is a 'must have' feature, but it is pretty cool when it does it.
 

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Well, you can always tell the cop that you didn't buy it to break the law, You got it for the wind warnings wink
 

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Once again I would say, if you want to waste $300, go for it. Just because I am a Police Officer now doesn't mean that I always have been. It also means that I used to and still do, love to go fast. The only difference between you and me is that now I get to see the "other side". The funny thing is that so many of the detectors now talk about being able to pick up the laser, instant on, "computers" (haha), and a few other things.

The supposed "computer" that they MAY be able to pick up if you are lucky would be the instant on type radar that like someone said, is braodcasting some small amount of signal all of the time. The ironic part is that most Departments will still not spen huge amounts of money on the higher dollar radars because there is no need to. Most still buy the K or KA band radars. Where you are getting fooled is that by them saying that they can just pick you up by the computer, it gives you the false sense of security.

You would not believe the number of tickets that are given to people with radar detectors. About the ONLY way that they do you any good is for you to treat EVERY single signal or warning that you get as a Police radar and no matter how much the strength of the warning. As for how many Officers that will keep the radar on all the time. I know of one out of 200 at my department who is just to lazy to use it correctly. Out of those 200, I would definitely say that if you are caught speeding and a detector is seen, you would get the ticket.

Detectors are pretty cool right now because of the "weather and traffic" warnings that they broadcast and that's about it. Also, don't be lulled into that whole thing that K40 says about, "We'll pay for your ticket if you get one". They will pay your fine which unless you were FLYING is only around $10-15. Even if you were flying, it may be $25. Then you have court costs and insurance points to follow.

The best advice that anyone gave in this whole post is to use your eyes!! Unless you run into the Officer that is running the radar ALL the time, they will have to see you and flip the switch to clock you. All you have to do is hit the brakes to slow down quick. Most Officers that I know,do not feel comfortable about going into court if they weren't able to lock the speed in, which is another step that gives you time to slow down.

Like I said, your money, but there are plenty of other things to spend $300 on rather than to waste it on a detector.
 

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Yeah I've looked farther into the K40 and it's crap. The passprt 8500, BEL 980 and up, and the V1 are the best detectors out there. I do pay attention to every warning that they give out and I do slow down or if I'm going the limit I just look around and try to find the cop. I did this with my Cobra and I never got a ticket other than that one time that I didn't have it with me. So to me they're worth it. Not to mention that the cops around here aren't all that bright and they leave the radars on all the time.

I Under stand your view point and half hartitly I agree but like I've siad, anything to give me a chance.
 

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Well, my radar detector has saved my butt about three times in the last two months. As long as it continues to do so it'll be a worthwhile thing to have, IMHO.
 

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Ok well after reading all the posts and reviews that my head could handle I desided upon the passport 8500. So far as to what I found out was that the V1 and passport 8500 have darn near the same exact ranges. the V1 beats the 8500 by .5 miles on X band, the 8500 and the V1 share about the same distanse on K and Ka. The 8500 has almost twice as much on laser than the V1. The V1 has wider radis to detect in but has a hiar trigger and has more false alarms than the 8500. The 8500 has more features that I find suitable for me than the V1. Finally the 8500 is a heck of alot cheaper than the V1 and the V1 can only be orderd on line. As for the Bel, it's the same as the 8500 but it has the voice feature and doesn't have the expert mode like the 8500 has.

That's my review on the 3 and it's also my reasoning for getting the 8500 and saving $100.

Thank you to everyone that helped me out on picking a radar detector of my liking.
 

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Not to mention that the Passports are made by the same company that makes many of the radars, Cinncinatti Microwave.
 

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Yep.. Speak of a self supporting business.. build radar guns, sell radar detctors. Once detctor sales slump, pull the trigger on the newest low power radar and sell the detctor that picks it up that you have had sitting on the shelf... Wish I had it so easy as to be selling both ends of the product line.


Tunez:
Not to mention that the Passports are made by the same company that makes many of the radars, Cinncinatti Microwave.
 

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Yep.. Speak of a self supporting business.. build radar guns, sell radar detctors. Once detctor sales slump, pull the trigger on the newest low power radar and sell the detctor that picks it up that you have had sitting on the shelf... Wish I had it so easy as to be selling both ends of the product line.
Kind of like Anti-Virus companies..... headbang
 

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I have had my ****** Passport 5000 for many years now and it has saved me numerous times and I have observed at least a two to three mile warning NO JOKE! I have had other brands of detectors and this one by far has been the best I have ever seen. I have mine hard wired and it is mounted above my rear view mirror, no visible wire, extremely good reception, and a clean installation. Can't beat it, but everyone has to be aware of "instant on radar" no detector can protect you from that little problem. Drive safe!
 

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That market is so full of scammers you don't even want to wade in those waters. Not to mention that actively jamming radar for real is a serious legal issue as those frequencies are only for licensed operators with licensed equipment per the FCC.

Laser jammers however..... Different story. BEL and other reputable manuf's make them and they are legal as the FCC cannot license light frequencies, and DOT cannot get involved with light freq's outside of the visible spectrum.

But stay away from Rocky Mountain Radar, they are more lies and BS than the afformentioned K40 detector.


WakaShoMan:
What about radar jammers? naughty
 

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Even still in most cities and states, there is a law that will basically say that any device used to jam, alter, or cause in incorrect reading in any radar device is illegal. Be very careful before you go that route because you could definitly end up in a bad spot later with those. Make sure to have someone thoroughly search your local city and state law books before you try that.
 

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You would not believe the number of tickets that are given to people with radar detectors. About the ONLY way that they do you any good is for you to treat EVERY single signal or warning that you get as a Police radar and no matter how much the strength of the warning. As for how many Officers that will keep the radar on all the time. I know of one out of 200 at my department who is just to lazy to use it correctly. Out of those 200, I would definitely say that if you are caught speeding and a detector is seen, you would get the ticket.

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Like I said, your money, but there are plenty of other things to spend $300 on rather than to waste it on a detector.
I have to agree. The ONLY time I have gotten a speeding ticket in 30 years of driving is when I had that %$#%@ radar detector. rant It gave me false confidence. Cops nabbed me the old fashioned way, using those speed strips on the road. doh

To add insult to injury, the detector was lost when some A-hole broke into my brand new car and stole it. headbang
 

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